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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

drum118 said:
By the time the Presto is roll out, most of TTC fare media will become history including the tokens.

Tokens will be one of the first to go due to their storage and collection weight. You just buy one of the new adult tickets similar to the ones that are currently being sold to Sr and students. They are longer and require to be stamp when first use once the new cars have the new machines.
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Right, but I thought that won't happen for years.
 
ehlow said:
Right, but I thought that won't happen for years.
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Presto complete rollout has been delayed from 2016 to early 2017. But that's only 3 years away. If they meet the current timetable then I'd think that the 2018 fare schedule would no longer have tokens.
 
drum118 said:
Regardless, you still need inspectors, as there will be always someone trying to get a free ride and that starts with the homeless. You can find them riding the system today for free. GO has at least 3-5% non paying riders of all ages, as I have seen them get tickets. Even suites have been given tickets.
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In the long term it should be very easy to automate the need for inspectors. There is technology today to count the number of people on a bus. Compare to the number of people that have tapped on (and eventually tapped off) and it will tell you how many people have not paid. The Inspectors just sit just outside of the core (Sherbourne and Bathurst) and goes between the various lines which have the most violations.

http://www.wired.com/2014/06/london-double-decker-seats/

If we want to get more high tech, via facial recognition software we can recognize who has paid when they tap a Presto card. Then via CCTV it can monitor who has/has not tapped. All done electronically. Inspectors would wirelessly be sent pictures of who has not tapped and target these individuals. They just go, ask the people to leave the LRT and ticket them on the side of the street without disrupting everyone else.

Sounds far-fetched but all the technology is here. Even Google Glasses can do facial recognition

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/busine...ss-rises-from-nicta-ashes-20140714-zt28e.html

Would give real-time metrics on passanger counts, fare evasion, track people that have assulted TTC drivers, monitor TTC drivers for unsafe activities, etc.
 
Here's an old video on a Trolley Ride Through New York City in the early 1900s:

[video=youtube_share;954L9MpfCEo]http://youtu.be/954L9MpfCEo[/video]

What's missing?

  • automobiles
  • traffic lights
  • parking enforcement
  • traffic lanes
  • stop signs
  • crosswalks (everybody "jaywalks")
  • speeding
 
Not sure where to ask this (can't find the thread for it) but when is the king street connection to queen street at river going to reopen for streetcars? That little section of road has been closed forever but it looks perfectly fine. Why not open it?
 
hawc said:
Not sure where to ask this (can't find the thread for it) but when is the king street connection to queen street at river going to reopen for streetcars? That little section of road has been closed forever but it looks perfectly fine. Why not open it?
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They've had to dig underneath a number of supports on the south side of the King St. leg for sewer work. It was felt that it was not safe to do this while that part of the bridge was still live, thus they closed it.

Once that work is done - I believe that should be in the next couple of weeks or so - they will then reopen the street.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Here's an old video on a Trolley Ride Through New York City in the early 1900s:

[video=youtube_share;954L9MpfCEo]http://youtu.be/954L9MpfCEo[/video]

What's missing?

  • automobiles
  • traffic lights
  • parking enforcement
  • traffic lanes
  • stop signs
  • crosswalks (everybody "jaywalks")
  • speeding
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What's there?

•Horses
 
W. K. Lis said:
Here's an old video on a Trolley Ride Through New York City in the early 1900s:
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Fascinating!

And what's really cool is that it goes underneath a long-gone elevated train line - and when it does, you see the shadow of an elevated train passing!
 
smallspy said:
They've had to dig underneath a number of supports on the south side of the King St. leg for sewer work. It was felt that it was not safe to do this while that part of the bridge was still live, thus they closed it.

Once that work is done - I believe that should be in the next couple of weeks or so - they will then reopen the street.
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TTC says end of August on their website. The city signs say Fall 2014. In another thread today, DSC said there were new signs in the shelters saying end of November. Then TTC confirmed today it's still end of August.

So probably 2015 sometime ...
 
Johnny Au said:
What's there?

•Horses
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But no horse piles. Must have been some lads with shovels on the corners.

Did anyone else notice the lack of overhead wires for the trolleys? Yes, even in the early 1900s the Americans had figured out how to bury the wires for streetcars in a cold climate like Toronto's instead of stringing them overhead in a big mess.
 
Washington DC streetcars used in-street conduits to house the wire because Congress banned overhead wires in Downtown Washington in 1893.
Nothing to do with the climate. The streetcar companies didn't want to invest in the extra cost of digging conduits for the wires, but had no choice.
 
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