animatronic
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I think you mean *second* priority after the $4b Scarborough stop.
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But there doesn't have to be 800-900 metre gaps. The stop spacing isn't set in stone quite just yet. Just fixing the Sherbourne vs. Jarvis and Parliament stop conundrum would resolve so many issues affecting the DRL route.
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When visualized you can clearly see how many things can be fixed.
Streetcar service along 504 King instead of heading to Broadview can take a new alignment up Parliament Street to Castle Frank Stn via the new Parliament Stn at Queen Street. This will further intensify growth along the Parliament corridor, which is outpacing the Sherbourne corridor in terms of density.
514 Cherry gets absorbed into the former 501 Queen car to Neville Park and 503 Kingston Rd car to Bingham.
75 Sherbourne to account for a non-direct transfer point at Queen and Sherbourne does an on-street loop of Shutter, George and Queen Sts before resuming its normal routing. This is similar to what's being proposed for the 47 Lansdowne bus when accessing the new Caledonia Stn.
We need to stop acquiescing for the cheapest construction method possible and instead opt for the BEST city building method possible. We only have one-shot at the DRL, don't let short-sightedness screw things up for generations to come.
Would require ~1km of new streetcar track from Carlton to Castle Frank.
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Thats what over $100 million in design funding will do.
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Not really correct. It has been a 'top priority' since Metrolinx moved it from their 25-year plan to the 15-year plan. In the same sweep, it was also designated one of the 15 top priority projects, and placed on Metrolinx's 'next wave' of projects. That got the ball rolling on planning and preliminary ridership forecasts, which helped seed dialogue at the political and public levels.
W. K. Lis
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With the DRL, it would likely have deep tunnels. Doesn't have to follow Queen or King Streets. Could run halfway between the two, with diagonal stairs and escalators rising up.
crs1026
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Plus, that's far more money than QP would ever commit - unless they had high confidence the City was really serious about it, and that it would survive the politics at Council.
Tory and Wynne only fell out recently, remember.....
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Wouldn't this mean there would be a lot of individual pedestrian tunnels (2-3 times as many) and making it "fully" accessible would be a pain. Since the tunnels would be in between King and Queen, then the stations would probably be in the mid-block of the north-south streets. How would this work when connecting with Line 1? A split? 2 new stations? I see the potential of having run parallel between King and Queen, but it just doesn't seem favored or probable.
TheTigerMaster
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The Relief Line Long was never a priority. The Don Mills LRT, yes. The DRL Long, nope. The DRL Long replaced the Don Mills LRT as priority on that corridor. You can see in this document that Metrolinx was planning for LRT or BRT on Don Mills in the 25 year plan. It's also designated as LRT on the 15 year plan.
It wasnt until June 2015 that I recall seeing our first official mention of the DRL Long plan, in the Yonge Relief Network Study. That study was essentially an "oh shit" moment, as Metrolinx suddenly realized that our Yonge relief efforts were inadequate. 12 months later, the project had received $100 Million in funding to get it shovel ready; unusually swift action by the government.
However, the need for the Relief Line Long to relieve the Yonge Subway had been hypothesized for years by transit watchers. Steve Munro has been pushing for it for a few years now. Here on UT, we've been talking about it at least as long as I've been active on the form. In those days it was just a crazy idea that probably would never happen; now we have $100 Million committed and will be construction ready in 3 to 4 years.
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Cobra
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In the meantime, Montreal (well Projet Montreal Party) dreams of their own Relief line. However, the odds of this one happening are slim to none in our lifetime
The Pink Line
The Pink Line
Hopkins123
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In the meantime, Montreal (well Projet Montreal Party) dreams of their own Relief line. However, the odds of this one happening are slim to none in our lifetime
The Pink Line
The proposed extensions on the books make far more sense than this. A Blue Line from Roi Rene to Galleries de Lachine would be a dream come true.
Cobra
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Montreal's Orange line has the same problem as our Yonge line, especially due to the Laval extension. A bypass straight to McGill (busiest Station I think) is needed. That relief line is needed there too but without a visionary mayor like Jean-Drapeau, very unlikely to happen.
robmausser
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The Montreal REM project currently in works is supposed to have connections in the future with McGill and the Blue line
Cobra
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The Montreal REM project currently in works is supposed to have connections in the future with McGill and the Blue line
It doesn't relieve the eastern branch of the orange line in any ways
nfitz
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Oddly they are shown as "future" though. For the blue line, how is this different than what we were told 35 years ago (when Édouard-Montpetit station was still known as Vincent-D'Indy)?
It isn't designed to.
Cobra
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It got fast-tracked and will open sooner than schedule pending the work which is very deep
Edouard-Montpetit Blue Line
McGill Green Line
