sixrings
Senior Member
Im just suggesting that if it costs 300 million for the station that money is better spent heading one stop east to Warden or west towards bathurst.
Im just suggesting that if it costs 300 million for the station that money is better spent heading one stop east to Warden or west towards bathurst.
Surely you mean Tokyo-like ridership not Tokyo like ridership. Is hyphenation that difficult?
Fanatics? Questioning why it's okay to convert subway to surface LRT on a piece of Eglinton East with 10,000 riders per hour is reasonable, but asking the same question of a piece of Sheppard with about 5,000 riders per hour is fanatical?
$1 billion ... I assumed it could be done for $500 to $600 million. If that's the price tag, then you might as well just take the same amount of money and build 12 km of rapid transit to Meadowvale, rather than 2 km of subway.
Did it look like my response was reduced to that? Really? Simply apologize and move on ...Grammar policing. Really? That's what you're reduced to?
You think Sheppard is a reasonable alternative to Bloor-Danforth? Why? Both Sheppard and Eglinton would leave Scarborough Centre ... but Eglinton will attract most of the riders.The purpose of Sheppard has always been about that just the 5000 pphpd that's there today. It's part of a long term network build that will offer a reasonable alternative to the Bloor-Danforth in getting across town.
Further expansion? The numbers aren't high enough to support subway in the first place. Ridership east of Victoria Park is even lower. Why do you support flushing money down the toilet like this, when it could be of more benefit to more people elsewhere? Let's stop building these gravy trains.That said, if they bridge this gap, further expansion becomes a whole lot easier.
Did it look like my response was reduced to that? Really? Simply apologize and move on ...
You think Sheppard is a reasonable alternative to Bloor-Danforth? Why? Both Sheppard and Eglinton would leave Scarborough Centre ... but Eglinton will attract most of the riders.
And I don't know why you think such a compromised plan is a good thing. It's a simple thing to look at. If you've got a $billiion to throw at transit on Sheppard, which is of greater benefit. A 2-km extension to Victoria Park, or 12-km of LRT to Meadowvale.
Further expansion? The numbers aren't high enough to support subway in the first place. Ridership east of Victoria Park is even lower. Why do you support flushing money down the toilet like this, when it could be of more benefit to more people elsewhere? Let's stop building these gravy trains.
What a load of crap. The purple line will not get more full by extending it by two stops.
Why the NEED for the consumers stop??????????
The Don Mills to Vic Park distance would be about the same as the yonge to Bayview spacing and a tad longer then the leslie to don mills spacing.
Wonderful .... people more interested in something that might not pay off for 50 years, than they are in something that would help a lot of people today.
There'd be very few trips along that corridor that gain more benefit from a subway extension, than an LRT to Meadowvale ... except perhaps those that are walking distance to one of the 2 new stations. And even then it's marginal, given that's there's only 1 traffic light between Victoria Park LRT station and Don Mills station, and the LRT runs more frequently, and will be quicker to walk to on the surface, than 2-stories underground.
See further up this thread. The portal is just west of Consumers Road. From Victoria Park to Don Mills station, the only light I was thinking of was at Consumers Road. Though looking carefully, I have forgotten the lights at Settlers Road - I'd hope a proper detailed design might find a way to eliminate this light, as the road doesn't really go anywhere except parking lots that could be instead serviced from Consumers Road.Last time I drove from Vic Park to Don Mills Subway station, there was was 5 lights? Unless you are talking about the proposed LRT? I knew it was going under the 404 but can't remember where it was coming up.
Are you 100% sure? I thought the box was only for a 3-car LRV train. That's what the station box design seems to show on the Crosstown website. Though that's a 90-metre train - the 4-car Sheppard trains are only 92-metres. A 5-car LRV train would be 150 metres - that's longer than a 6-car subway train (138 metres).
The area to the right is the service area. The area for future expansion is the "Reserved" area to the left. That looks to be about 30 metres to me, if the yellow area is 60 metres. That allows for a 3-car train.] a 3-car train would additionally use the blue area to the right of the yellow in the plan.