coolcanadian
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I think "Woodbine"
But is that ever really going to happen?
I think "Woodbine"
I couldn't agree with you more.....
That is what I have been saying, putting a casino somewhere that is already developed will be disasterous for the surrounding businesses. The monster resort and casino will srive to keep people within the walls of the resort and will encourage them to only spend their money there. There is only so much tourist dollar to go around, and dropping a mega resort casino into downtown toronto will suck all that tourist money away.
However, Markham is another story. The area in Downtown Markham is not yet developed. For the most part it's just a large piece of flat land (in the geographic heart of the GTA). So we can build all the structures and roads, but how do we get people and business there? How do we attract them to Markham and get them to stay? We don't want a monster casino resort....just a casino.
The casino would hurt business development in Toronto.....but it sure would help it in Markham.
^I think sixrings is referring to the already operating Fantasy Fair at Woodbine Mall, not Woodbine Live!, the proposed entertainment district at the Woodbine racetrack.
Are you sure? I thought he was talking to my recent post about an entertainment district, and comparing it to woodbine live. I would love to see woodbine live, but will it ever happen? And what can go at OP?
You had me at "Planet Hollywood".......
Are you sure? I thought he was talking to my recent post about an entertainment district, and comparing it to woodbine live. I would love to see woodbine live, but will it ever happen? And what can go at OP?
Are you sure? I thought he was talking to my recent post about an entertainment district, and comparing it to woodbine live. I would love to see woodbine live, but will it ever happen? And what can go at OP?
People on this forum have an attitude. A casino resort would work at Woodbine Live, but it would also work downtown. I cannot imagine a roller coaster or ferris wheel at woodbine. It would be weird. I'm giving my ideas and opinions of what we could see at OP.
@adma - What would you like to see there? Seriously...
And people downtown Toronto would like another major tourist attraction. Look at OP is located!! And now its dead. It needs to be a new thing.
Toronto has two full-sized waterparks - Wild Water Kingdom (the original) and Splashworks at Wonderland, both of which are about the same size. Indoor waterparks are by definition family destinations. Ontario Place had a rather good selection of family-oriented waterpark attractions, and look at it now.
Back to the main topic, the CNE grounds might work well as for a casino if Toronto was indeed stuck with one. But it would really have to be one mere part of a new master plan for OP/Ex grounds (imagining hotel, family-oriented entertainment and restaurants, more trade space on the CNE grounds itself, perhaps a rebuilt Flyer, maybe even that danged Ferris wheel for the CNE side, melding with a mature nightlife district and waterfront park angle for OP). But I bet OLG will be looking for a quick build with lots of parking, not what I would like to see for the waterfront.
OLG wants to build in Markham. We don't want OLG here anyhow if they're just going to build a casino. MGM seems like the better offer with an entertainment facility with only 5-10% casino. Not crazy about the casino, but an entertainment complex would be good. Their investment quoted range seems wide though, 2-6 billion. It might end up be on the lower end of 2 billion. I don't know how much they can build with that amount.
OLG wants to build in Markham. We don't want OLG here anyhow if they're just going to build a casino. MGM seems like the better offer with an entertainment facility with only 5-10% casino. Not crazy about the casino, but an entertainment complex would be good. Their investment quoted range seems wide though, 2-6 billion. It might end up be on the lower end of 2 billion. I don't know how much they can build with that amount.
People on this forum have an attitude. A casino resort would work at Woodbine Live, but it would also work downtown. I cannot imagine a roller coaster or ferris wheel at woodbine. It would be weird. I'm giving my ideas and opinions of what we could see at OP.
@adma - What would you like to see there? Seriously...
And people downtown Toronto would like another major tourist attraction. Look at OP is located!! And now its dead. It needs to be a new thing.
Ontario Place was not dead. Yes, it's dead right now because it's CLOSED! I went there 3 times last summer and all the attractions were very busy. The park over-all is not crowded like it used to be but it wasn't empty either. A lot of families went for the water-park and the Amphitheatre gets big crowds, which is why they are keeping it open, so parts of Ontario Place are profitable. Echo Beach will also be kept open, so that must also be bringing in money. It's a nice little venue for shows.
I agree with you that OP needs a big, new attraction, I just don't agree with what that is.
If it was open all year round, it might generate more income I think? None of the water parks you listed open all year. They open in the summer only. They're also far away in the suburbs and cater to cars. Wonderland has buses that go there, but still pretty far away.