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They're going to have a big problem on their hands when Eglinton is packed in about 5 years. It will be too

I don't think it will be. 90m trains with the capability of running every 2-3 minutes through the tunnel section will be able to handle the capacity. Crush load would be around 18,000 pphpd. There's no way with 2, and in the future 3 or 4 N-S intersecting routes that it will reach that point. And even if it does, the money would be better spent building a parallel relief route than upgrading the existing route to have a higher capacity.
 
I don't think it will be. 90m trains with the capability of running every 2-3 minutes through the tunnel section will be able to handle the capacity. Crush load would be around 18,000 pphpd. There's no way with 2, and in the future 3 or 4 N-S intersecting routes that it will reach that point. And even if it does, the money would be better spent building a parallel relief route than upgrading the existing route to have a higher capacity.

Should the Don Mills Subway reach Eglinton, to get downtown, the flow would be cutoff at the Don Mills Station, not Eglinton Station.

Good Points. I think Don Mills should go to Sheppard though.
 
Good Points. I think Don Mills should go to Sheppard though.

If the DRL is built to Eglinton using Provincial revenue tools, I can see City Council potentially paying for a DRL extension from Eglinton to Sheppard using Municipal revenue tools.
 
Her OneCity plan will need to be revised. The $28 Billion plan includes ~$5.4 Billion for the DRL and ~$1.3 Billion for the Yonge Subway. However Metrolinx has come out and said that they'll be funding a $7 Billion DRL for the City of Toronto as well as the $1.3 Billion Yonge Subway extension. So that means that there is $6.6 Billion to spend reallocate to other things or the plan will now be a $21 Billion plan.

So the $7 billion DRL includes both the east and west sections up to bloor?
 
So the $7 billion DRL includes both the east and west sections up to bloor?



Up to Eglington

The DRL options are:

1) Downtown to Pape - $3.2 Billion
2A) Dundas West to Pape - $6.3 Billion
2B) Downtown to Eglinton - $ 5.5 Billion
3) Dundas West to Eglinton via Downtown - $8.3 Billion

The final route alignment is yet to be determined by Metrolinx and the TTC. It will likely be Eglinton West to Bathurst, which should come it at about $7 Billion. If the City of Toronto throws in another $1.3 Billion, which is something that is very likely, then the full DRL from Dundas West to Eglinton.
 
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The DRL options are:

1) Downtown to Pape - $3.2 Billion
2A) Dundas West to Pape - $6.3 Billion
2B) Downtown to Eglinton - $ 5.5 Billion
3) Dundas West to Eglinton via Downtown - $8.3 Billion

The final route alignment is yet to be determined by Metrolinx and the TTC. It will likely be Eglinton West to Bathurst, which should come it at about $7 Billion. If the City of Toronto throws in another $1.3 Billion, which is something that is very likely, then the full DRL from Dundas West to Eglinton.
Can the city throw in some more money to go from Keele/Eglinton or Jane/ Eglinton to Don Mills /Eglinton? The DRL should go to Eglinton on both ends.
 
Can the city throw in some more money to go from Keele/Eglinton or Jane/ Eglinton to Don Mills /Eglinton? The DRL should go to Eglinton on both ends.

At today's city hall meeting, Rob Ford objected to spending any money, such as traffic lights across Sheppard Avenue East so that people could go to church safely (and others). If that is gravy, do you think spending money on transit would be beneficial?
 
At today's city hall meeting, Rob Ford objected to spending any money, such as traffic lights across Sheppard Avenue East so that people could go to church safely (and others). If that is gravy, do you think spending money on transit would be beneficial?

All transit is gravy. That is, unless they're useless subways on Finch.
 
Raising Fares Is Not the Only Way to Fund Public Transportation


Read More: http://www.theatlanticcities.com/co...not-only-way-fund-public-transportation/7601/

PDF Report: http://www.vtpi.org/tranfund.pdf

The always thorough Todd Litman of the Victoria Transport Policy Institute released a report last week analyzing 18 local options for funding public transportation. Fare increases are there, of course, along with the gas tax, the vehicle-miles traveled fee, high-occupancy toll lanes, land value capture, and basic advertising. Litman also includes non-intuitive ideas like priced parking programs, which a city might implement on its own merit, but which could also generate revenue diverted to the transit system.

There are also several ideas in the bunch that are relatively unknown. An "employee levy," for instance, charges a small fee to large employers in a heavy transit area, with the idea that the company's workers contribute a good deal to commuter congestion. A "parking levy," meanwhile, puts a special tax on non-residential spaces in a corridor, on the belief that these drivers benefit from strong transit with better auto access. --- Litman evaluates each of his 18 funding options on eight criteria: revenue potential, stability, equity (both horizontal equity, meaning across all users, and vertical equity, meaning across all social classes), travel impact, development impact, public opinion, and implementation. He scores each option on each criteria on a scale from -3 to 3 points.

- The highest-scoring transit funding option was discounted bulk passes. These are passes sold in bulk to certain groups of people — often students or local workers. The revenue potential is modest, because the riders get a deal, but the passes create rider loyalty over the long term, which increases funding stability. The programs are also equitable, encourage transit use and transit-oriented development, and have a high rate of public approval. --- The lowest-scoring option was raising fares. The revenue potential of a fare hike is fairly strong, with a 10 percent jump creating 5 to 8 percent more revenue in the short term. But fare hikes are regressive, hurting low-income riders more than wealthy ones, and may discourage use. And, as every city official knows, the public hates them.

- Litman's scoring system is admittedly subjective. It can also be a bit misleading at times. Advertising scores very high, for instance, and has some natural advantages in terms of equity (we all hate ads), travel impact (none) and implementation (easy). It also has disadvantages as a funding mechanism that don't seem to get equal weight in this particular scoring system. Chief among them is the fact that revenue potential is incredibly low.

- Litman concludes that no single method on his list has the ability to resolve a transit agency's funding problems. What works for some places won't work for others: selling station air rights, for example, will work much better in a high-density environment like New York than in a mid-size city without rail transit. Litman concludes that cities must use a "variety of funding options" to meet the unique needs of their own system.

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The DRL options are:

1) Downtown to Pape - $3.2 Billion
2A) Dundas West to Pape - $6.3 Billion
2B) Downtown to Eglinton - $ 5.5 Billion
3) Dundas West to Eglinton via Downtown - $8.3 Billion

The final route alignment is yet to be determined by Metrolinx and the TTC. It will likely be Eglinton West to Bathurst, which should come it at about $7 Billion. If the City of Toronto throws in another $1.3 Billion, which is something that is very likely, then the full DRL from Dundas West to Eglinton.

My preference is Dundas West to Eglinton via Downtown, DW is a good place for a hub.
 

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