Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs

[TransitBart]

I'll assume Alstom knows what they're doing!

Wise.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Here's a video of the mock-up for octranspo from a couple years ago.

Now the mock-up is part of a simulator they're using for training.

And this is pictures from the inside of an actual train. The door level LCD screen is supposed to be for wheel chair users who might not be able to see the overhead signs at the articulated joints
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/builders-blog/spotlight-inside-the-vehicles/

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

I've posted over in th ION thread but also curious about the Citadis, the trains used by GLink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G:link have very nice interior LCD screens despite the service being a few years old, will our trains have something similar?

G:link uses Bombardier Flexity 2 trams which were manufactured in Vienna Austria for their system. The interior is something that the system partners ordered customized for their specific needs.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

That we don't really know. Metrolinx I don't think has released anything on the interior of the vehicles

 

[Kyle Campbell]

I've posted over in th ION thread but also curious about the Citadis, the trains used by GLink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G:link have very nice interior LCD screens despite the service being a few years old, will our trains have something similar?

Sometimes simpler is better. The bright orange LED destination signs are easy to see from a distance, whereas if you go LCD you're tempted to want to put more info and pretty graphics on the screen which can make it harder to read unless you're right under the sign. I know Ottawa could have chosen LCD, but they went LED except for the door level signs. I'm pretty sure the flexities could have been ordered either way too

 

[steveintoronto]

G:link uses Bombardier Flexity 2 trams which were manufactured in Vienna Austria for their system

IIRC, that put a few noses out of joint Oz-side, but when the experience of 'domestic content' went awry in other jurisdictions, the Consortium, which includes BBD, that owns and operates this, opted to get them from "source":
http://www.metro-report.com/news/single-view/view/gold-coast-tram-option-exercised.html

 

[ssiguy2]

Those Ottawa trains look very similar to Vancouver's SkyTrain MKIV trains.

Don't like those London trains, no level boarding. I'm surprised they were allowed.

 

[steveintoronto]

Those Ottawa trains look very similar to Vancouver's SkyTrain MKIV trains.

Don't like those London trains, no level boarding. I'm surprised they were allowed.

"London trains?" The Class 700s and 345s? Level boarding for high platforms.

Are you confusing the G:Link Gold-Coast (Brisbane) with London?

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Looking in the video, it looked like there was a fairly large gap it wasn't an exact height match, which is fairly common on many train and rapid transit systems. It's level boarding but not fully accessible boarding for those with mobility problems. The video might be deceptive though.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

I have to say the Citadis looks way better in the Metrolink livery than what octranspo chose:

https://www.insauga.com/heres-a-sne...ntario-lrt-cars-will-look-like-in-mississauga

Other than that though, it looks like despite all the customization options for a Citadis they will be exact copies of Ottawa's. I wonder if that's something Alstom insisted on to meet the tight delivery schedule

 

[Allandale25]

^ What do you mean by "proper screens not led lights" and how does that related to the opening in the 2020s?

 

[Kyle Campbell]

It's also not an either/or choice. Both Calgary's s200s and Montreal's azur trains have both. I think it's because the high contrast led signs are more accessible for people with low vision.

 

[Allandale25]

^ Thanks. But are you talking about the interior signages or the sign in the windshield?

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Interior signs. But Montreal still uses the orange led signs at the joints between cars, and Calgary has the orange led signs on the windows facing inward. I guess Ottawa has both too, but octranspo has been vague on what they'll display on the LCDs beside the door other than the low placement is for wheelchair to be able to see it. If metrolinx's Citadis cars are as identical to Ottawa's as they seem, they'll also have the screen. The flexities however seem very similar to the TTC streetcars which don't have LCDs

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Different topic, in terms of actual completed vehicles, here's the score (correct me if I'm wrong)
TTC: 57/204 (Ordered 2009)
OC Transpo: 20/34 Citadis (Ordered 2013) 6/6 LINT (Ordered 2011)
ION: 3/17 (Ordered 2013)
Metrolinx: 0/76 (Ordered 2010)