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Juan_Lennon416 said:
905 should pay 2 fares for entering the city. These are the issues that the 416 should protest!
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With the PRESTO card, they include the address (including the postal code) as part of the account information. So they could. However, they should bill the city where the PRESTO card user resides in, to get the 90¢ per fare subsidy each time they ride the TTC. Would accept the province chipping in instead, however.
 
W. K. Lis said:
With the PRESTO card, they include the address (including the postal code) as part of the account information. So they could. However, they should bill the city where the PRESTO card user resides in, to get the 90¢ per fare subsidy each time they ride the TTC. Would accept the province chipping in instead, however.
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What do you want from anyone outside of Toronto to do that don't use TTC???

How much money is spent in Toronto by non Torontoian compare to what it cost them to use TTC??

How many 100's of million dollars are spent yearly in Toronto by non Torontoian that could be spent in their own town/cities to support them???

You want your Cake & Pie by getting non Torontoian to pay more to ride TTC when Toronto isn't prepare to pay for the Torontoian who use the system more than the outsiders.

I spend 75% of grocery bill in Toronto than my own city. Then there all the other item to the point it over 60%.

Now what will happen if non Torontoian decide to cut back on spending in Toronto if they are force to pay 2 fares to use TTC???

It would be cheaper to use GO to get downtown than use TTC plus my transit system fare to the point over 50% of my use of TTC wouldn't be require anymore.
 
Having 905ers on the TTC helps the TTC out only when they are filling seats. If they are filling cars at Finch and Kipling, the puts the subways at capacity putting TO at billion dollar deficits is not good. Making it cheaper for 905ers to take the TTC is not something I agree with, especially during rush hour. If they are filling seats on a bus that otherwise would be empty, that would be great even if it costs them only 80 cents. If they have to put another bus out at the cost of Toronto taxpayers, that's a big no-no.

TTC is way better off without York region riders filling up subways at Finch. The overcapacity situation is costings at lot as longer dwell time means more trains required means higher operation cost in rush hour.
 
Why are you guys so obsessed over lines that a few aristocrats and British soldiers drew on a map 200 years ago?

First of all, Toronto has the lowest residential tax rates in the GTA and the highest tax rates on offices, retail and industrial property. When people from out of town take the subway into Toronto, whatever they're doing in the city helps to pay for the roads and public transit that they use, and keeps taxes lower for people who live in the city.

Second, if Toronto having to pay for its own transit system is such a big deal, stop shaking your first at people who live on the other side of imaginary lines and start asking MPPs to make public transit a regional/provincial power rather than a municipal one. That's what most of the world's best transit systems have done - New York, London, Paris, Madrid, Frankfurt, Munich, Melbourne, just to name a few.
 
So come January, the saving we get for using token/Presto over cash fare will be a measly 7.7%. Right now, it's $3.25 vs. $2.90 - around 11 %.
 
The fundamental problem is the flat fare system. If you had to pursue revenue maximization, you'd have zoned fares, timed fares, peak fares, etc. All to balance your demand, get more revenue from those who consumer more, and make it cheaper to use off-peak and for short journeys.

This is the discussion we need to have on fares. How long can this flat fare system exist? Especially when the system covers a massive area like the 416.
 
kEiThZ said:
The fundamental problem is the flat fare system. If you had to pursue revenue maximization, you'd have zoned fares, timed fares, peak fares, etc. All to balance your demand, get more revenue from those who consumer more, and make it cheaper to use off-peak and for short journeys.

This is the discussion we need to have on fares. How long can this flat fare system exist? Especially when the system covers a massive area like the 416.
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The thing is the TTC does not see it as much of a problem right now but they are looking at things right now that they can do once Pretao is and the new fare gates are 100 % reddy. I've herd from someone that knows someone that they are possibly looking at two zones separated by the 401. Everything south of it will be the current process and everything north of it will be a higher price.
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
The thing is the TTC does not see it as much of a problem right now but they are looking at things right now that they can do once Pretao is and the new fare gates are 100 % reddy. I've herd from someone that knows someone that they are possibly looking at two zones separated by the 401. Everything south of it will be the current process and everything north of it will be a higher price.
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What about separate fare zones west of the Humber and east of Victoria Park? Not just that, but there would be another set of fare zones that are both north of the 401 and west of the Humber, as well as both north of the 401 and east of Victoria Park.
 
Johnny Au said:
What about separate fare zones west of the Humber and east of Victoria Park? Not just that, but there would be another set of fare zones that are both north of the 401 and west of the Humber, as well as both north of the 401 and east of Victoria Park.
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I think they want to keep it simple and make it only two fare zones rather then have multiple ones and have it cost more money to cross over the entire network.
 
Found this solution for bicycles, strollers, walkers crossing streetcar tracks, at this link.

veloSTRAIL

the system eliminating flange grooves
veloSTRAIL is a new and innovative inner panel system that eliminates the flange grooves.

An easily replaceable flangeway element closes the flange groove. Any rolling stock, will easily press the replaceable flangeway element down but accomodates enough resistance for pedestrians, cyclists, wheelchair users, baby carriages and inline skaters. As an added benefit ice formation in the flange groove is no longer possible.

veloSTRAIL inner panels are available in 600 mm and 1.200 mm and are
designed for a train speed of max. 120 km/h.

Smooth transition from one product to another together with an integrated locking and a bolting under the rail head makes driving over the crossing very comfortable.

Compact panel units allow simple and cost-effective track maintenance due to short installation and removal. Replacement of the replaceable flangeway element is without removal of the inner panel and requires no machinery and only minimal labour during very short, partial closing periods.
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Unfortunately, money is much more important than safety in Toronto.

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