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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

Forgotten said:
This is the revised schedule is looking like

510 Spadina: 2014
511 Bathurst: 2015
509 Harbourfront: 2016
505 Dundas: 2017/2018
501 Queen / 508 Lake Shore: 2018/2019/2020/2021
504 King: 2022/2023/2024/2025
512 St Clair: 2026/2027
502 Downtowner: 2028
503 Kingston Rd: 2028
506 Carlton: 2028/2029/2030

This is why you don't sole source anything.

Folks could be riding articulated buses by now.
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Are you for real regarding this schedule or are you just making fun of how things work with Bombardier, the TTC, etc.?
 
hawc said:
Why no TR on the Bloor/Danforth line?

Funny that the new equipment (both subway and streetcar) happened first on north/south routes and later on east/west routes.

Just a coincidence?
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It's no coincidence. It's done on purposely. He new TR trains are bigger and can carry more passengers. They were put on Line 1 YUS to help address the over-crowding issue by providing 10% more capacity per train. Line 2 is not as crowded so it can make due with the T1 trains for many years to come until it too gets over crowded.
 
lead82 said:
It's no coincidence. It's done on purposely. He new TR trains are bigger and can carry more passengers. They were put on Line 1 YUS to help address the over-crowding issue by providing 10% more capacity per train. Line 2 is not as crowded so it can make due with the T1 trains for many years to come until it too gets over crowded.
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Yes and Line 2 still benefited by getting newer & more reliable cars than it was using before.
 
rbt said:
Streetcars have all of the problems of interacting with traffic, running in tunnels, tighter horizontal/vertical turn tolerances, higher power requirements (larger motor size), lack of high platforms, and other things in a single package. Also, the LRT is generally larger than a single subway car and probably has more electronics/components since they need to be self-contained. The middle 4 cars on a Toronto Rocket appear on the surface to be pretty darn simple.

One obvious example of the turn tolerance impacts the design; Toronto rockets have 5 bends per 6 cars but the streetcars have 24 bends per 6 cars. Not that we'll ever have a 6-car streetcar train but since we've ordered roughly 200 of each type of car it seems reasonable to compare them that way.

Rockets also have the benefit of some components being in the track/control room. For example, the train doesn't need to tell the switch when to change, it just follows the track. Streetcars need to direct the track on where to be and for Eglinton LRVs follow signalling/automation direction as well.
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Thanks for the info. This makes streetcars seem really complex to run.
 
So if you don't interact with the operator and you board with paying with a token, I guess you would have to give the POPer your ticket if you ride starts with that streetcar, and is there a transfer box to issue transfers...
 
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