Bordercollie
Senior Member
The design specifications has already been chosen and has already been posted here on this board.
They will not be going with articulated bogies because it changes the curve radius and would complicate clearance issues.
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TTC Fleet Procurement Strategy - 2022
- Thread starter Northern Light
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They will not be going with articulated bogies because it changes the curve radius and would complicate clearance issues.
cplchanb
Senior Member
hopefully this time they will have industrial engineers and designers who have actual artistic sense to design the car bodies... the TRs look horrible vs what other comparable trains around the world have.
SashaLemon
Active Member
I have brought up this example before, but the C30s on the Stockholm Metro are Bombardier Movia trainsets. The Toronto Rockets are also Bombardier Movias. Bombardier's designs are now Alstom's designs. Alstom is the most likely supplier of basically any train in the GTA. (Except the Ontario Line as it turns out.)
So of course, a brand-new design will be thought up for the TTC, but I really hope it resembles something modern like this and not ANOTHER stainless-steel motif design.
drum118
Superstar
Saw them this year and a nice smooth riding train
Lets hope the next set doesn't have the issues like the TR had from day one in service.
They run in pair that are longer than ours
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Northern Light
Superstar
I know the specs are done; but there's 1000 pages of documents to look through.......
I know the specs are done; but there's 1000 pages of documents to look through.......
Kindly post the link to that, thank you.
Allandale25
Senior Member
@Coolstar was first w/this on Sunday:
TTC: Other Items (catch all)
This is a false solution. The real answer would be to implement all door boarding on every vehicle in this city and finally get in line with the standards of every major world city, and stop forcing everyone on through one door. Start by adding a door open request on the outside rear door(s)...urbantoronto.ca
That said, this is a logical thread to cross-post it to.
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You have a Bonfire Account?
Because if you grab yourself one (they're free); the basis of a new thread is found there w/the files showing the specs for new trains!
Toronto Transit Commission
ttc.bonfirehub.ca
Not sure if these images are there because I didn't log in but someone sent them to me.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Lack of “railfan” window, likely designed by non-transit users. By “provision for driverless operation”, does that mean that the driver cab could be removed completed to become “driverless”?
Northern Light
Superstar
Excellent, Thanks!
I liked the cab-ends; I'm ok w/the red doors, but the side walls still look like a cheap tin can. We can and should do better. Can't a Rocket at least have a good racing stripe?
Northern Light
Superstar
Just on time, @Steve Munro is out with a story on the RFP and has highlights:
stevemunro.ca
A couple of graphics from Steve's story, for the rest, follow the link:
Lots of other interesting bits from Steve!
TTC Issues RFP For New Subway Trains
On October 13, 2022, the TTC issued a Request for Proposals for a new fleet of subway trains. The submission deadline is July 28, 2023, and the anticipated contract award date is December 22, 2023.…
stevemunro.ca
A couple of graphics from Steve's story, for the rest, follow the link:
Lots of other interesting bits from Steve!
nfitz
Superstar
The RFP for the T1 replacement cars say it closed in July 2023.
cplchanb
Senior Member
yup... minimal effort in this design...they literally just changed the window and door and tweaked the front cap... absolutely no inspiration or creativity at all....
Bordercollie
Senior Member
What I am wondering is if they will match the excelleration profile of the T1's so that they can maintain schedule. The TR's are okay on line 1 due to the stations being more far apart but on line 2 the stations require quick acceleration and stopping to maintain schedule. If anyone remembers the H1 and H2 days they could get that done real quick.yup... minimal effort in this design...they literally just changed the window and door and tweaked the front cap... absolutely no inspiration or creativity at all....
drum118
Superstar
Miss read the date
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Why are they delivering them to Wilson and not Greenwood? Sounds like it's written for Alstom to win this bid.