salsa
Senior Member
Let's hope there will be proper transit priority signals unlike St. Clair.
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ehlow
Senior Member
As I mentioned on another thread, while yes I hope there's transit priority that works, it's actually not as necessary in my opinion.
The reason is that many of the intersections give Eglinton the green light most of the time, decreasing the probability a vehicle travelling on Eglinton would see a red. They are often intersections with very small roads or entrances into parking lots of shopping centres.
At least, that's my experience from driving along that stretch. It's usually pretty fast to drive along when there isn't traffic, due to the traffic lights being far apart and giving green to Eglinton most of the time.
Jaye101
Active Member
It is not faster to take the subway to Keele from Yonge and St. Clair to get to Keele and St. Clair. Not even close.
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JayBeeGooner
Active Member
^^But, but... Subway!
Subways are always faster... right?
Subways are always faster... right?
Palma
Senior Member
I have gotton on the streetcar at St Clair West and just to get to Christie takes 10 min with having to wait for all those left hand turns. I find it hard to believe it takes 26 min to go across to Gunns Road. St. Clair to Y&B is about 5 min on the subway. B&Y to Keele about 15 min. I use to take the subway from Bloor and Jane to Yonge and Bloor every morning and night and it use to take 17 min to go east. Jane is 2 stops west of Keele I think. When you do the math that means from B&Y to keele subway is 15 min so a total of 20 min from St Clair and Yonge to Keele subway. Of course there is the time to transfer at Y&B to get onto the Bloor line and then at Keele to get onto the bus.
There are too many stops on St Clair but this is about Eglinton and I can understand the fear of some useless stops along this route
There are too many stops on St Clair but this is about Eglinton and I can understand the fear of some useless stops along this route
howl
Active Member
According to Google maps, leaving right now, it's 30 minutes from St.Clair and Keele to St.Clair and Yonge by subway (26 minutes to Yonge and Bloor and 4 minutes from there to St.Clair). You may need to add on a few minutes transfer time at Y&B, so let's call it 32 minutes.
It's 28 minutes directly along St.Clair.
Given the inconsistency of traffic flow along St.Clair I would bet that if one person took one route and another took the other it's likely they would both would arrive within a minute or two of each other and who was ahead would be anyone's guess. We need Clarkson and Hammond to figure this out.
It's 28 minutes directly along St.Clair.
Given the inconsistency of traffic flow along St.Clair I would bet that if one person took one route and another took the other it's likely they would both would arrive within a minute or two of each other and who was ahead would be anyone's guess. We need Clarkson and Hammond to figure this out.
nfitz
Superstar
You'd also need time to transfer to the bus. Google Maps allows for that, why not just use that.
Looking right now, I do see 28 minutes using streetcar, but times ranging from 34 to 37 minutes using the 89 and subway:
https://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=S...exp=0&noal=0&sort=def&mra=ls&t=m&z=14&start=0
It's 28 minutes directly along St.Clair.
On a Sunday morning perhaps, with no traffic on Keele ... but 6 to 9 minutes difference according to Google Maps. I suppose if one person got very luck, and made each change with no waiting, and the streetcar got held at St. Clair West for a couple of minutes, it could tie. But I can't imagine many would choose a normally longer 3-leg route over a direct connection. Particularly as there destination is likely on the street at St. Clair and Yonge, not the subway station itself!
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Don't forget the problem the Works Department is having with transit signal priority on St. Clair. This is the Works Department, not the TTC, who's priority is vehicles and not passengers. They say it will take the Works Departments months to fix. See link.
someMidTowner
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
May would take a minimum of 35 minutes on each route, defeating the entire purpose of the experiment. Damn that guy is slow.
Johnny Au
Senior Member
Jane is actually three stops from Keele: first High Park, then Runnymede, and then Jane.
adHominem
Senior Member
OK. Clarkson on the streetcar, so he can shout "nooooooooo" every time it gets stuck behind a left-turning car; Hamster on the subway looking increasingly panicked, May in a four-door Maserati touring sedan driving so slowly he may as well be rolling backwards in neutral, and The Stig on a Bixi, somehow managing to express disgust even though he doesn't speak and you can't see his expression.
ehlow
Senior Member
From Metrolinx board meeting: http://www.metrolinx.com/en/docs/pd...0140905_BoardMtg_2014-15_Business_Plan_EN.pdf (section 3.5)
nfitz
Superstar
I'm curious where they are going to test those now - Waterloo?. Originally it was to be at the yard on Sheppard East, but that got cancelled after the last round of council shenanigans.
Markster
Senior Member
I've heard for some time that Waterloo will be where they are tested. Specifically, along the Spur Line segment, next to and north of the University. That's where we're expecting to get our first track.
However, I don't believe we're expecting to get rails in the ground until 2015.
However, I don't believe we're expecting to get rails in the ground until 2015.