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Rob Ford's Toronto

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the lemur said:
I had a thought about the 'Night Shift' and its influence on the Fords ...

Were these influential people calling Rob and Doug at home, or did they sometimes call City Hall looking for either of them?
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They called them on their cells, neither Rob nor Doug spent much time at home or at work. Robbie's calls were recorded in the ITOs and gave us a pretty good sense of his call patterns.
 
Daniel Dale was on Metro Morning talking about parallels between Trump and Ford (in context of the bar-all-Muslims faux controversy). One commonality that doesn't get enough air is that both were born rich to domineering fathers. This results in a distinct strain of affluenza.

Neither Trump nor Ford have ever had to "work" a day in their lives. Most of us have had a crappy retail job, cleaned toilets for a summer or had some other job where we were at a distinct disadvantage in our customer interactions. In contrast, Ford and Trump were born on third and have always had the upper hand - except for interactions with their fathers. Their only framework for managing 'adversity' is through dealing with their dominating parents. Any conflict in their life gets managed the same way - by emulating their hard-ass fathers. That also means that they can only view the adversity of others in the same context. You lost your job? Suck it up and stop being so lazy. Don't make enough money? Fight back. Meanwhile they look like heroes to those actually struggling with real issues, even though the challenges are completely different.

There's also a weird transference of paternal angst to the government, since like their fathers bureaucracy can seem inflexible, arbitrary and unfeeling. No wonder Ford hates taxes - that's just dad taking away his allowance.
 
animatronic said:
Daniel Dale was on Metro Morning talking about parallels between Trump and Ford (in context of the bar-all-Muslims faux controversy). One commonality that doesn't get enough air is that both were born rich to domineering fathers. This results in a distinct strain of affluenza.

Neither Trump nor Ford have ever had to "work" a day in their lives. Most of us have had a crappy retail job, cleaned toilets for a summer or had some other job where we were at a distinct disadvantage in our customer interactions. In contrast, Ford and Trump were born on third and have always had the upper hand - except for interactions with their fathers. Their only framework for managing 'adversity' is through dealing with their dominating parents. Any conflict in their life gets managed the same way - by emulating their hard-ass fathers. That also means that they can only view the adversity of others in the same context. You lost your job? Suck it up and stop being so lazy. Don't make enough money? Fight back. Meanwhile they look like heroes to those actually struggling with real issues, even though the challenges are completely different.

There's also a weird transference of paternal angst to the government, since like their fathers bureaucracy can seem inflexible, arbitrary and unfeeling. No wonder Ford hates taxes - that's just dad taking away his allowance.
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They're also both colossal liars.
 
animatronic said:
Daniel Dale was on Metro Morning talking about parallels between Trump and Ford (in context of the bar-all-Muslims faux controversy). One commonality that doesn't get enough air is that both were born rich to domineering fathers. This results in a distinct strain of affluenza.

Neither Trump nor Ford have ever had to "work" a day in their lives. Most of us have had a crappy retail job, cleaned toilets for a summer or had some other job where we were at a distinct disadvantage in our customer interactions. In contrast, Ford and Trump were born on third and have always had the upper hand - except for interactions with their fathers. Their only framework for managing 'adversity' is through dealing with their dominating parents. Any conflict in their life gets managed the same way - by emulating their hard-ass fathers. That also means that they can only view the adversity of others in the same context. You lost your job? Suck it up and stop being so lazy. Don't make enough money? Fight back. Meanwhile they look like heroes to those actually struggling with real issues, even though the challenges are completely different.

There's also a weird transference of paternal angst to the government, since like their fathers bureaucracy can seem inflexible, arbitrary and unfeeling. No wonder Ford hates taxes - that's just dad taking away his allowance.
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Insightful on Dale's part, abusive relationships are damaging and debilitating. However, that does not excuse poor behaviour, especially in positions such as Robbie and Donnie have held and do at the moment.
 
JWBF said:
Insightful on Dale's part, abusive relationships are damaging and debilitating. However, that does not excuse poor behaviour, especially in positions such as Robbie and Donnie have held and do at the moment.
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That was my thought - Dale didn't address the issue.
 
salsa said:
Trump is what would happen if the comments section became a human and ran for president.
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