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15,300 is the highest and 11,500 is the lowest in the Parry Sound area.

400 OASTLER PARK DR(HWY 7241)/BADGER RD IC 217 SEC HWY 518 (E)/HUNTER DR (W) IC 220 3.3 12,300
400 SEC HWY 518 (E)/HUNTER DR (W) IC 220 BOWES ST/MCDOUGALL DR IC 224 3.6 11,900
400 BOWES ST/MCDOUGALL DR IC 224 PARRY SOUND DR (W) ‐ HALL'S QUARRY RD (E) IC UP 227 2.4 12,000
400 PARRY SOUND DR (W) ‐ HALL'S QUARRY RD (E) IC UP 227 HWY 124 (E) ‐ PARRY SOUND DR (W) IC UP 230 2.5 15,300
400 HWY 124 (E) ‐ PARRY SOUND DR (W) IC UP 230 HWY 7910 (AVRO ARROW RD) IC UP 235 5.1 14,900
400 HWY 7910 (AVRO ARROW RD) IC UP 235 END OF HWY 400 5.3 11,500

Nowhere east/south of SSM to Parry Sound is as low as 11 south ot Timmins. That and the fact that thre is more population along the 17/69/400 corridor tells me that it should do about as good as the Northlander, if not more. Also, most truck traffic uses 11 instead of 17 to go west as it is the flatter route. A basic look tells me investing in this corridor could be a good thing.
 
400

15,300 is the highest and 11,500 is the lowest in the Parry Sound area.

400 OASTLER PARK DR(HWY 7241)/BADGER RD IC 217 SEC HWY 518 (E)/HUNTER DR (W) IC 220 3.3 12,300
400 SEC HWY 518 (E)/HUNTER DR (W) IC 220 BOWES ST/MCDOUGALL DR IC 224 3.6 11,900
400 BOWES ST/MCDOUGALL DR IC 224 PARRY SOUND DR (W) ‐ HALL'S QUARRY RD (E) IC UP 227 2.4 12,000
400 PARRY SOUND DR (W) ‐ HALL'S QUARRY RD (E) IC UP 227 HWY 124 (E) ‐ PARRY SOUND DR (W) IC UP 230 2.5 15,300
400 HWY 124 (E) ‐ PARRY SOUND DR (W) IC UP 230 HWY 7910 (AVRO ARROW RD) IC UP 235 5.1 14,900
400 HWY 7910 (AVRO ARROW RD) IC UP 235 END OF HWY 400 5.3 11,500

Nowhere east/south of SSM to Parry Sound is as low as 11 south ot Timmins. That and the fact that thre is more population along the 17/69/400 corridor tells me that it should do about as good as the Northlander, if not more. Also, most truck traffic uses 11 instead of 17 to go west as it is the flatter route. A basic look tells me investing in this corridor could be a good thing.
The AADT is at best a mediocre measure of how many people would use a train. In the vast north, driving is more convenient for loads of city pairs. Unless people want to take transit between the city pairs that the train would run between, no amount of road volume will convince them to switch (especially since you can't just Uber from SSM to, say, Wawa)
 
The AADT is at best a mediocre measure of how many people would use a train. In the vast north, driving is more convenient for loads of city pairs. Unless people want to take transit between the city pairs that the train would run between, no amount of road volume will convince them to switch (especially since you can't just Uber from SSM to, say, Wawa)
Are you suggesting that with Via, there is no traffic on the 401?

This is not about converting all the traffic. It just cannot happen. It is about converting enough that it fills the trains.. So, if they can find about 200 people to fill them each day they run, then it could be a success. Could you convert the 200 from the 3600-11,000 vehicles driving that route? That is the real question. That is the one that none of us have enough information to say firmly yes or no.
 
Recent arrivals.

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Just thought I would mention the Ontario Northland logos in these videos:

 

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