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stokell
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Thank god the denny's is closed, I went in there and paid 15 bucks for a club sandwich.
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Niagara Falls Hilton Phase II (53s, 172m, Stanford Downey Architects)
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spmarshall
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That Denny's was always a big rip-off. Years ago, my family took advantage of a Hilton promo and got a two room suite there - the package included Denny's (or another place's) vouchers. The vouchers didn't go very far. The Burger King on Clifton is almost double its regular prices.
If you are stuck at one of the Fallsview or Clifton hotels, you are better off walking up Lundy's Lane half way to the QEW - the first restaurant, East Side Mario's, charges regular prices, not inflated Falls prices. More restaurants are not much further. Once you're west of Main Street or Drummond Road or north of the 420, you are outside the gouge zone.
If you are stuck at one of the Fallsview or Clifton hotels, you are better off walking up Lundy's Lane half way to the QEW - the first restaurant, East Side Mario's, charges regular prices, not inflated Falls prices. More restaurants are not much further. Once you're west of Main Street or Drummond Road or north of the 420, you are outside the gouge zone.
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FutureMayor
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That new arena (if built and approved), would be built nowhere near the downtown. I also doubt Niagara Falls would ever fill a 6,000 hockey arena. If anything a 3000 - 4500 seater would be more realistic.
As for a convention centre, I think that is a fantastic idea. The American side just built one and is apparently doing really well. I know of many domestic organizations who are holding their annual conferences/meetings in Niagara Falls. The Hilton's ballrooms seem to be a favorite location.
Louroz
As for a convention centre, I think that is a fantastic idea. The American side just built one and is apparently doing really well. I know of many domestic organizations who are holding their annual conferences/meetings in Niagara Falls. The Hilton's ballrooms seem to be a favorite location.
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adma
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Though remember that the American side actually built a convention centre 30 years ago--and a magnificent one, that rainbow-arched Philip Johnson thing--trouble is, it was part and parcel of the misbegotten urban-renewal scheme that made a ghostly hash out of downtown NFNY. So it's now the Seneca Niagara Casino.
Just reflecting on the saga of NFNY; well, there's another reason why Yanks are particularly prone to conservative anti-modernism (cf. the Boston City Hall thread). It's like a woman using a molesting uncle as an alibi to hate all men...and given what she went through, one can empathize with her pain...
Just reflecting on the saga of NFNY; well, there's another reason why Yanks are particularly prone to conservative anti-modernism (cf. the Boston City Hall thread). It's like a woman using a molesting uncle as an alibi to hate all men...and given what she went through, one can empathize with her pain...
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spmarshall
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Where would it go? To a greenfield site with lots of parking, like the arenas for Mississauga and Brampton (for which I believe, both were mistakes at least geographically)?
St. Catharines lacks an OHL team (the largest city in southern Ontario without one - excluding Toronto suburbs), so I would expect that it (and Thorold, Welland, etc) would provide some of the fan base. Then Niagara Falls could get publicity from a shout out by Stephen Colbert, who has already mocked Sarnia, Windsor, Sudbury, Brampton and London.
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interchange42
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The Niagara Falls Arena is planned for a brownfield site at the north end of 4th Av, about 1 km to the north and west of downtown.
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Dylan Leblanc
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Looks a bit like the Mid-Continent Tower (1980) in Tulsa
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ganjavih
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Is that tower with the green copper roof actually from 1980 or is that a part of the original structure? There's ain't a chance in hell the Niagara Falls Hilton will look as good as that.
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Bogtrotter
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I think it's from the 1980, as an older picture of the Cosden building has no distinctive roof. It sounds like a pretty remarkable renovation.
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The Mid-Continent Tower is a skyscraper located at 409 South Boston in downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma. At 156 meters (513 ft) in height, it is the fourth-tallest building in Tulsa. Faced with bright white terra cotta and crowned with a distinctive copper roof, it is one of the city's most recognizable buildings.
The Mid-Continent Tower started out as the sixteen-story Cosden Building, built for oil baron Joshua Cosden in 1918. The building was restored in 1980, and in 1984 a new 20-story tower was cantilevered over it, bringing the total number of floors to 36. The tower appears to rest on the Cosden Building, but it is actually supported by an addition built onto the east side of the older structure. The entire project was designed to resemble the style of the Cosden Building as closely as possible, giving the impression of a unified whole even though the two sections of the building were constructed 66 years apart.
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The Mid-Continent Tower is a skyscraper located at 409 South Boston in downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma. At 156 meters (513 ft) in height, it is the fourth-tallest building in Tulsa. Faced with bright white terra cotta and crowned with a distinctive copper roof, it is one of the city's most recognizable buildings.
The Mid-Continent Tower started out as the sixteen-story Cosden Building, built for oil baron Joshua Cosden in 1918. The building was restored in 1980, and in 1984 a new 20-story tower was cantilevered over it, bringing the total number of floors to 36. The tower appears to rest on the Cosden Building, but it is actually supported by an addition built onto the east side of the older structure. The entire project was designed to resemble the style of the Cosden Building as closely as possible, giving the impression of a unified whole even though the two sections of the building were constructed 66 years apart.
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adma
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1984 makes more sense--1980 is too early for that thoroughness of faux...
Redroom Studios
Senior Member
Niagara Falls - Hilton Phase II 58s, 172m
hope nobody minds me posting this in the GTA construction forum - maybe we could expand it to be the Greater Golden Horseshoe... also too lazy to check if there is already a thread for this.
Anyways, Niagara Falls is getting a new tallest hotel. Phase 2 of the Hilton is currently under construction. Emporis is reporting it as 58s, 172m http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=niagarafallshiltonhotelanddaysinnexpansion-niagarafalls-canada while SSP is reporting 52s, 177m http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?c305 Currently construction is on approximately the 16th floor. My pictures were taken a week ago. Should be fun to watch this one rise. The exisitng Phase I hotel is 30 floors plus the small middle section (former Days Inn) looks like about 14 floors... add them all up and Hilton will have somewhere around 100 floors of rooms to fill!
Also, on the SSP diagram page you can see a proposal that has been approved by city council for a 59 floor 229m (roof height - does not include observation bubble) hotel called the Rainbow Tower Hotel. If built, it would be billed as the tallest building in Canada outside of Toronto. As prime views of the Falls are pretty much taken up, the only option is to build taller towers behind the existing ones..
Hilton Phase 2 Render
hope nobody minds me posting this in the GTA construction forum - maybe we could expand it to be the Greater Golden Horseshoe... also too lazy to check if there is already a thread for this.
Anyways, Niagara Falls is getting a new tallest hotel. Phase 2 of the Hilton is currently under construction. Emporis is reporting it as 58s, 172m http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=niagarafallshiltonhotelanddaysinnexpansion-niagarafalls-canada while SSP is reporting 52s, 177m http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?c305 Currently construction is on approximately the 16th floor. My pictures were taken a week ago. Should be fun to watch this one rise. The exisitng Phase I hotel is 30 floors plus the small middle section (former Days Inn) looks like about 14 floors... add them all up and Hilton will have somewhere around 100 floors of rooms to fill!
Also, on the SSP diagram page you can see a proposal that has been approved by city council for a 59 floor 229m (roof height - does not include observation bubble) hotel called the Rainbow Tower Hotel. If built, it would be billed as the tallest building in Canada outside of Toronto. As prime views of the Falls are pretty much taken up, the only option is to build taller towers behind the existing ones..
Hilton Phase 2 Render
yyzer
Senior Member
Thanks for the update, Redroom....Niagara Falls too often gets ignored on all the skyscraper sites....
Architecturefan
Active Member
wow 58 stories is huge for Niagara Falls, hell its not small for Toronto either
Redroom Studios
Senior Member
ya, its huge for here... similar height to 1 King West I believe. I do like the way this will tidy up that end of the block and has some decent detailing at street level. There is a giant hole still on the west side of the site, I'm guessing perhaps for parking, though I know lack of parking was a major issue during the approval process. Several of the hotels feature off site parking with shuttle service...
urbandreamer
recession proof
Cool! In a few months on a clear sunny day I shall be able to see it rise from my balcony!
It's a clunker architecturally, but perhaps in another 100 years the real skyline will be Niagara Fall's not Toronto's?
It's a clunker architecturally, but perhaps in another 100 years the real skyline will be Niagara Fall's not Toronto's?