StatGeek
Active Member
Have you notice the people who hate these events are the same people who don't want to raise their taxes for research. But will be first in line when advances in the medical field through the money is benefiting for them.
It's a big city; people do all kinds of things at all hours. The TTC operates on Christmas Day even though "stores and offices are closed" because people need to get around for one reason or another.
So basically your position is that people should organize their lives around these events? How about we organize these events around what is most convenient for residents instead? Do we really need a race that closes Lakeshore, Queens Quay, Front, Bay, University, Bloor, Eastern and Queen? You say "Sunday morning" but the race starts at 8:45 and last well into the afternoon. My experience has been that you have to just stay home while the event is ongoing, because both transit and car traffic end up totally messed up.
Frankly I (and I suspect most people) don't give a rat's ass about the Scotiabank Marathon, or any other marathon for that matter.
So you're saying that marathons should be allowed because they're inclusive, but the Santa Claus parade is not inclusive because it's "only" for families with young children? You're really tying yourself in knots here.
If Yonge is closed, there are no alternate routes because it cuts the city in half. If the Lakeshore or Gardiner are closed, all alternate routes will be jammed so you're just as screwed anyway. If I am going to see family out of town with overnight bags, transit is not a practical option. Those of us who don't live in childfree urban candy land sometimes have to drive places on the weekend, so I think it's entirely reasonable to be cautious about when and where closures happen.
YES! This is what annoys me most about this whole thing. John Tory was saying that all these runs can't be held on Yonge Street, when Yonge Street is probably the best place for these things. No one needs to drive on Yonge...there's a subway underneath running every 5 minutes!2. DDA -- sorry, but do you live in Toronto? Yonge is the LEAST important of all our N-S routes. If you're going to visit the family in Markham, you go up DVP/AveRd/whatever to the 401. Lakeshore closed on a summer Sunday when Gardiner is EMPTY is no more an inconvenience than my athlete's foot.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...the-world-will-blow-your-mind?detail=facebook
Kind of makes the transit squabbles look petty...
It appears that someone is not planning alternative routes when they know a problem will exist. It's easy to blame something/someone than deal with a challenge.
Please don't turn things into a "atheism rules" thing.
Is there some reason you can't just, you know, walk from Yonge to Spadina?
I'd be curious to know the rationale for 24 hour subway service when cities like London with more than twice our population shut down the tube in favour of night buses around midnight.
I doubt the added cost to run could be justified by the ridership. Subways are great for high capacity transport but that isn't needed at 4 am.
This is the problem with electing a really really really old man. He just doesn't get it. A savvy politician would actually promote adult fitness, and show up in the morning to say a few words and signal the start of the event.
You can't judge the financial performance of the subway by how "packed" it is when you get on. The first 504 streetcar on a Sunday at 5:30am is packed because service is every 25 minutes at that point. The Sheppard subway is packed at rush hour because it only runs every 5.5 minutes at rush hour and has 4 cars (for reference, the Yonge subway runs every 2 minutes, 21 seconds at rush with 6 cars). For "packed" subways at 4am, you'd probably need one train per hour. I think most people would prefer buses every 5 minutes to a hypothetical once an hour subway at 4am.There's an entire thread devoted to this, and it's not as difficult either logistically or financially as you think. Besides, if we were going to be that practical, we would shut down the Sheppard line and stop construction on the new Spadina extension...and cancel the Scarb subway (again). Do you ever use the TTC??? It's packed no matter what time you use it. I catch the first 504 streetcar at 5:30 am every Sunday...it's full of people.
John Tory was saying that all these runs can't be held on Yonge Street
For "packed" subways at 4am, you'd probably need one train per hour. I think most people would prefer buses every 5 minutes to a hypothetical once an hour subway at 4am.
Gotta say, Mayor JoTo's year-end interviews with local outlets were of such tenor as to suggest the 'Ford-Lite' label (no pun intended) is not entirely misplaced.
It's a passive-aggressive version of "I'm a bidnessman, bringin' bidness savvy to the politics". Okay, then.
No such need. At one time, it was practical idea, as going to church was the most likely reason you would be on a streetcar on a sunday. Funny though....I don't notice them out front of non-christian places of worship.