lordmandeep
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immediately???, try running a small business and then increase wages by 25% in one shot. Over 2-3 years is a much better idea.
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Homelessness and Panhandling in Toronto
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immediately???, try running a small business and then increase wages by 25% in one shot. Over 2-3 years is a much better idea.
Ummagumma66
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wow...anyways, when is the SSA supposed to come into law? they have no plans that I have heard of to implement it here.
dt_toronto_geek
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I don't even know where to begin with this one. NYC was great 20 years ago, but much different from what it is today. Ed Koch didn't turn the city around, Rudy did. On Toronto, I have issues with Miller but he's hardly a socialist. Issues such as homelessness, public housing, crime, fiscal management etc etc will all be addressed by competent Canadian politicians in due time.
Mystery White Boy
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How was New York better 20 years ago? Koch was the one that started to turn things around. Guiliani just finished where he left off.
I don't think is there is such a concept as competent Canadian politicians.
dt_toronto_geek
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I didn't say it was better, I said it was "great" 20 years ago. NYC in the 80's (when I began traveling there) had a completely different "buzz" about it. It was edgier, easy to find decent bargain hotels, 42nd St was so bizarre & basically a time where "anything goes". I remember a friend of mine who lived there for several years beginning around the late 70's saying once "no one tells no one what to do in New York", and I think that encapsulated it. NYC is as beautiful today as it was 20 years ago (perhaps more so) but cleaner in some areas, crime is down but the transformation of an area like Times Square makes me gag. To many others that is a good thing. Toronto on the other hand (and I'm not comparing the two cities) has only got better in the past 20 years in my view. Again, we're not without our problems but overall the quality of life in Toronto is miles ahead of where we were 20 years ago.
Urban Shocker
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I haven't been to NYC since 1974 or 75. We stayed at the Taft on OCA trips, and spent much time gallery-hopping - though the drag queen bars around Times Square were very much on our agendas. Apparently, the nabe is much changed.
Times Square is now a glorified food court/mall. The only redeeming quality are the fantastic signs.
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Times Square is certainly a outdoor foodcourt, the signs are fantastic, but the draw really is the Broadway theatres that surround it. The Times Square subway station is also a hyper-busy transit hub, also servicing the Port Authority Terminal, so the energy with so many people from all walks of life, compined with hyper-ads is amazing.
One of my favourite little things there is the neon sign above the NYPD kiosk.
One of my favourite little things there is the neon sign above the NYPD kiosk.
Mystery White Boy
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The streets are more dangerous today then they were 20 years ago. I can't even walk through my local park at night anymore. And I live in what was a beautiful area until a few years ago. So many thugs have moved into the area and are tarnishing it.
dt_toronto_geek
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My nabe is also plagued with young wanna be thugs, a sprinkling of crack dealers, aggressive panhandlers & drunk idiots causing trouble but Toronto's crime rate is actually quite low although it may not always feel that way. Crime is higher in other major Canadian cities such as Edmonton, Vancouver, Calgary and we're about on par with Montreal. I won't even compare crime with major cities in the USA, we all know the answer to that. In 2006 violent crime was down dramatically in Toronto, homicides were down 13% alone.
adma
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Still queer. Y'know, totally Disney...
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Hydrogen
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There is a police station smack in the middle of Times Square. There is also a bakery in the vicinty, as well - not something that pops into mind when recalling the square from twenty years ago. In that respect, it's kind of like Las Vegas: it's more family oriented now.
Ummagumma66
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I've wandered through Moss Park and Regent Park and have never felt unsafe, for the most part they will leave you alone if you leave them alone, the only place where I've *almost* been mugged was here in calgary. most little thugs are for show only, the reason you think NYC is "safer" than Toronto is because the cops don't take a whole lot of shit down there, MWB: I'd like to know your source for the 3000 homeless persons in NYC. Edit: I found this http://www.ysop.org/statistics.htm which says there is a few more than 3000 homeless n NYC.
MisterF
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Are you serious? Crime rates peaked in the early 90s and have been dropping since. People 20 years ago were saying exactly the same thing as you're saying now.
Admiral Beez
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It doesn't matter what the crime stats say. These are his opinions and feelings on the matter, IMO he's not claiming to know the exact stats, only that to him crime is up.