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Homelessness and Panhandling in Toronto

Well, I guess Toronto will just have to die and be reborn as a major American city. Clearly things really suck when you are not one of them.

At least the Americans know how to deal with their city issues. New York was a mess 20 years ago and Koch turned the city around. Toronto needs to get rid of that socialist dink, Miller. We could use an American up here to turn things around.
 
This thread has abruptly become one of the most ridiculously laugh-out-loud in the board's entire history.

MWB: what are you, fucking 8 years old? You sound like an obnoxious hayseed kid in a bad Disney made-for-tv movie. Did you twirl about in the middle of Times Square, Mary-Tyler-Moore-style, as well? Hilarious! Please do carry on, starry-eyed "boy".
 
This thread has abruptly become one of the most ridiculously laugh-out-loud in the board's entire history.

MWB: what are you, fucking 8 years old? You sound like an obnoxious hayseed kid in a bad Disney made-for-tv movie. Did you twirl about in the middle of Times Square, Mary-Tyler-Moore-style, as well? Hilarious! Please do carry on, starry-eyed "boy".

What's the matter? Don't take so much offense. This city is a mess in so many ways.
 
Toronto needs to take a lesson from New York. I was just there and the city completely blew me away in every possible way. Toronto is like a little hairy mole on a fat black lady's bum compared to New York in terms of size and in Toronto it's so hard to find a really beautiful building, whereas in New York it's really hard to even find an ugly building. Anyway...New York is much much larger than Toronto in terms of population as we all know, yet they only have 3000 homeless people. It seemed like a lot less when I was there. I walked everywhere. I covered a really large portion of the city and barely saw any homeless people at all. Whereas in Toronto, you see multiple homeless people on every corner. It's terrible. Overall Toronto is better than New York in the following aspects: street hot dogs. New York only seems to have basically schneiders wieners. Not the jumbo ones we have here. The traffic is atrocious. I'd never drive in Manhattan. But New York was so much better in every other way. The people were friendlier, the streets were cleaner, the architecture and public space and parks were so much nicer than anything we have here. Namely, Central Park. If it wasn't so expensive to live in Manhattan I'd move there in a heartbeat. Now can we try to stay on topic people.

Honestly, I registered just so I could say . . .

You're a massive tool. Please go play in traffic.

To the rest of the people on this board, sorry for the confrontational first post, but seriously this guy needs to fuck off and come back when he's not so cringe-inducingly lame.
 
From the Star:

Homeless denied health care
The health of homeless people is much poorer than the general population.
Activists set sights on $10 wage Living wage campaigns can and do work, an American activist told a public forum sponsored by Campaign 2000, an organization designed to end poverty in Canada.Sep 19, 2007 04:30 AM
Michele Henry
Staff Reporter

With soaring rates of diabetes, arthritis and hepatitis C, Toronto's homeless are in worse shape than they were 15 years ago, a study released today says. And, in what researchers call a perverse twist, they have less access to health care than ever before.

According to The Street Health Report 2007, the city's homeless are four times more likely to be refused medical care without a health card – 28 per cent, up from 7 per cent in 1992 – and 59 per cent do not have a family doctor, up from 41 per cent.

"It's appalling," says Erika Khandor, a Street Health researcher. "In 15 years, nothing has gotten better for the homeless and many, many things have gotten far worse."

Toronto's homeless population has more than tripled since 1992, says the study, which cost roughly $100,000 and surveyed 368 adults with no fixed address. It was conducted jointly by Street Health, a Dundas St. W. clinic that offers health care to the homeless and marginalized, and the Wellesley Institute, a non-profit organization that does research on urban issues.

But not everything has changed since 1992, when the original Street Health Report, the first of its kind in North America, offered a snapshot of life on the streets: 10 per cent of Toronto's homeless still attempt suicide every year; they continue to live on less than $500 a month; and, in the past year, one in three has been beaten and one in five women has been raped.

While the exact number of street dwellers has been difficult to estimate, about 6,500 people slept in shelters last year on any given night, according to the report, compared with a nightly count of 1,900 in the early 1990s.

Brian DuBourdieu, 51, has been on and off the streets for 15 years, but he gave up on shelters long ago. Instead of contending with bedbugs and sleeping with one eye open to protect his possessions – a knapsack carrying a razor, shampoo samples and a packet of instant breakfast mix – he prefers to bundle up and sleep in parks.

Like one-third of Toronto's homeless, DuBourdieu, who has an alcohol addiction, subsists on less than $200 a month, which he earns panhandling.

"I hustle hard," he says. "And I tell good jokes for a quarter."

The study attributes increased homelessness over the past 15 years to funding cuts at the federal and provincial levels and the downloading of services, such as housing, to cities and the province. In the past two decades welfare benefits have dropped to roughly half, after inflation, of what they were in 1995, the study says.

As well, minimum wage and the construction of affordable housing were both frozen in the mid-'90s. One-third of the people surveyed say lack of money for rent is their main reason for being homeless.

Among the study's 13 recommendations:

Increase social assistance rates.

Raise the minimum wage to $10 per hour immediately.

Increase the availability of affordable housing as soon as possible.

"Right now we're not helping people get out of being homeless," Khandor says.

"They're getting stuck in it."

The homeless spend, on average, 4.6 years on waiting lists for subsidized housing, the study says.

DuBourdieu has been on that list eight years. "And I want safe housing," he says. "I don't want to fight people when I'm going into my building."

When it comes to health care, DuBourdieu knows how to get what he needs. While he lost his health card a while ago – 34 per cent of homeless people don't have one, the study says – he visits emergency personnel and his doctor regularly, so they will remember him.


While patients are not supposed to be turned away in an emergency, doctors can refuse to see patients who do not have a health card, researchers say.

Kathy Hardill, outreach nurse and an author of the original study, says the decreased access to health care is one of the study's most shocking findings – especially given the prevalence of disease and disability among Toronto's homeless: Diabetes has increased threefold since 1992; 43 per cent have arthritis, up from 29.8 per cent; and 23 per cent have hepatitis C, which wasn't even surveyed in 1992.

Significant barriers to health care have been erected in the past 15 years, Hardill says, including a clampdown on invalid health cards. Even though the Ministry of Health set up health-card kiosks in 1992 in response to the original study, the homeless often don't have the identification needed to apply, she says.

"People with the highest burden of illness have the least access to care – it's shameful, it's perverse," she says.

"This whole idea of universality of health care in Toronto is nothing but a myth if you're homeless."

According to the Street Health Report survey, homeless are:

29 times more likely to have hepatitis C

20 times likely to have epilepsy

5 times more likely to suffer from heart disease

4 times more likely to have cancer

3.5 times more likely to have asthma

3 times more likely to have arthritis

2 more likely to have diabetes

AoD
 
Well Queens is a different story.

But like I said, I've been all over Manhattan. I just stay in Queens.

The topic is Homelessness and Panhandling in Toronto. Once we started discussing New York outside of its direct comparison to Toronto's experience to homelessness and panhandling, the thread went off topic.
Prior to MWB's post, this thread was discussing panhandling and homelessness in Toronto. I still don't see it.
 
Honestly, I registered just so I could say . . .

You're a massive tool. Please go play in traffic.

To the rest of the people on this board, sorry for the confrontational first post, but seriously this guy needs to fuck off and come back when he's not so cringe-inducingly lame.

What's wrong with you?
 
Seriously? Have you ever met her?

Ick.


Not to worry, casaguy. My tongue was planted firmly in cheek.

Just answering MWB's desire for an "American" mayor and the such a person would magically make our fair city into a sterling gem.

Of course, I don't see how a mayor (American, Canadian or one from Oz), or emulating New York City, actually addresses or solves panhandling or homelessness in Toronto.
 

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