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Former President Donald Trump's United States of America

adma said:
If they're trying to distance themselves from "kooks", increasingly they're caught btw/ a rock and a hard place.

Kooks are to Trump what dead Jews were to Hitler, some might claim.
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Rush Limbaugh as a kinder, gentler Republican - not a kook- isn't going to going to make a lie into a truth. He's a rabble rouser till the end.
 
AlbertC said:
RIP, America the great. Back to peasantry and serfdom.
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Not sure I buy that. Its certainly possible; no shortage of idiots in the world. But doesn't seem like a credible news site and I couldn't dig up any verification of the story in 5 minutes..........not interested enough to try harder. LOL
 
They do wear their politics on their sleeves. As a tourist, I've had seemingly normal folks come up to me - knowing I'm a visitor - and start riffing on me how X is ruining the country.
 
Teddy Roosevelt, a look at his role in modern progressivism

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Progressivism in the United States is associated with the Democratic Party and the New Deal. The Great Depression of the 1930s gave U.S. leaders a choice: Either make fundamental changes to the capitalist economic system, do nothing, or watch our country have a socialist revolution. We can see these choices in retrospect because it was not known in advance if fundamental changes could be made which would "save capitalism."

According to many liberal historians, Franklin D. Roosevelt took the "save capitalism" route and became the hero of progressives from then on.

No narrative about a nation ever has everyone who agrees with it. Certainly many on the left have always thought that FDR and the Democratic Party did not so much as "save capitalism" as "preserve an unjust economic system" with Band-aids and various kinds of regulatory and redistributive apparatus. New Deal Progressivism was always an unacceptable middle position.

On the other hand, many conservative historians, economists, and citizens have thought that FDR went too far and sapped capitalism of its energy by imposing far too many regulations and forms of redistribution.

Given that there is no agreed-upon narrative for the evolution of capitalism in the 1930s, there is an additional problem with the progressivism narrative. That problem is that the progressive tradition in the United States in the 20th century started with the leadership of a Republican president, namely Theodore Roosevelt, FDR's hero and fifth cousin.
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For it was Teddy Roosevelt, who was born Oct. 27, 1858, ..., who stood up to corporate America as no president had ever before and arguably since. It was TR who was the first major trust-buster we had, dividing Standard Oil of New Jersey and breaking up monopolies all over the field. It was TR who took the lead on establishing the Food and Drug Administration to ensure that the public safety was secured regarding the production and distribution of food. It was TR who campaigned in his second term for a "Square Deal" for all Americans, especially for the working class; indeed, in 1904, the working class basically was working America because we did not have much of a middle class. The middle class emerges after the Second World War.

By 1912, progressivism is picked up by Woodrow Wilson, who, though an enemy of Roosevelt concerning Germany and Wilson's hesitancy to enter World War I, was certainly with TR when it came to regulating big business and promoting a range of freedoms for the "common man." Wilson led the way to establish Workman's Compensation, the Federal Trade Commission and the Federal Reserve Board. Wilson reined in big business and continued TR's progressivism in domestic policy.
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For much of the 20th century, historians discussed three stages of progressivism in the United States: the Progressive Era, the New Deal, and the Great Society. President Bill Clinton's New Democratic Party issued in a new stage of progressivism, one that many die-hards viewed as Republican lite political economy. Same holds for President Barack Obama.

But leaving Clinton and Obama aside, the problem remains in many discussions about progressivism today: The target is usually FDR and the Keynesian policies of the 1930s. If only we could go back before that we would be better off, the conservatives and libertarians tell us. The problem with this story is that when we dial back we get Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt — indeed, we get to a Republican whose face is on Mount Rushmore.

Our current politics is abaze with misunderstandings, ignorance, and unfair characterizations of one's opponent's viewpoints. We have democratic socialists like Sen. Bernie Sanders who most economic historians regard as a "social democrat" and not a "democratic socialist." We have 20-something libertarians who castigate the Democratic Party and its FDR/Keynesian roots. We have centrist Democrats like former Vice President Joe Biden who blast Republicans for the harm they have done to core American values of equal opportunity and freedom. We have a president who ridicules the Democrats and shows little knowledge of Republican history.

There is so much that needs to be done to dig ourselves out of this huge dysfunctional mess, now intensified even more by the impeachment drama. One place to start is for Democrats and Republicans alike to appreciate that the towering figure of Teddy Roosevelt was both the father of Democratic Party progressivism and the bridge from Lincoln to modern day Republicans. We are not as divided as CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC tells us that we are.

Let's get our teachers educating our young people about how the 20th century got started. That will help us wrestle with our challenges in the 21st century, including the impeachment question and especially how Senate Republicans should address the issue.
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Northern Light said:
Not sure I buy that. Its certainly possible; no shortage of idiots in the world. But doesn't seem like a credible news site and I couldn't dig up any verification of the story in 5 minutes..........not interested enough to try harder. LOL
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I also tried and nothing. It seems faked for instagram, snapchat, etc.
 
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