Admiral Beez
Superstar
As long as Ford doesn't win, Tory can hold his head high and say that he did his part to split the vote. He doesn't want to be mayor, he only wants to stop Ford.
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2014 Municipal Election: Toronto Mayoral Race
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As long as Ford doesn't win, Tory can hold his head high and say that he did his part to split the vote. He doesn't want to be mayor, he only wants to stop Ford.
BurlOak
Senior Member
That would be some interesting questions -
Do you know the name of your Councillor?
Do you know what your Councillor stands for?
Do you know what Ward you live in?
Do you know who is running for Mayor?
Do you know what the mayoralty candidates stand for?
I would guess many people would answer NO to the first 3 and YES to the next 2.
The other thing I expect is that people would expect that Councillors would follow the direction of the mayor for all City wide issues and their own councillor is only influential in putting up stop signs, no parking signs, and similar local things.
That is the benefit of having a Party system in municipal politics. The average person does not have time (or the information) to make a knowledgeable determination of their councillor, put if the councillors were vetted by a party, the voters could make more intelligent choices. It would probably also increase voter participation.
freshcutgrass
Senior Member
Sadly, that is how it works. Toronto's somewhat perpetual prosperity is largely to blame for our lacklustre politicians.
It's ridiculous to think a garbage strike is all people can think of regarding the 7 years of Millers reign.
In a career of losses, this is Tory's biggest claim to fame...under his direction, the PC election campaign resulted in the biggest political loss in the history of the country.
Nobody would ever buy that. Especially since John Tory was a Ford supporter.
FromTheHammer
Active Member
Also, Local 79 represents 20,000 municipal employees; the garbage collectors only represent part of the local. They are the most visible. It was not necessarily them that wanted to strike, but they bore the brunt of the criticism and are now suffering the retaliation of having their jobs contracted out so Ford can score political points.
Edit: Fact correction - garbage collectors are local 416; both locals (about 24,000 workers) went on strike in 2009.
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waltthizzney
New Member
Chow is a train wreck. Does she really think she can win on the sympathy vote? Karen Stintz has impressed me for the simple fact she actually has a personality and is not afraid to fire back at everyone.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
SJD_Toronto
Active Member
This tells me that Soknacki will likely endorse Chow when he drops out in a few months. They agree on this issue and on the LRT plan. If Karen Stintz drops out, no doubt that her support will go to John Tory.
VTB
Active Member
Better still is if they could join forces. I would be really comfortable with that ticket.
SJD_Toronto
Active Member
VTB
Active Member
Or these could both happen and we're left with Tory/Stintz, Chow/Sonacki and RoFo!!
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
What role could Chow offer Soknacki in exchange for endorsement? I don't think Soknacki will be running for council.
Arg0
New Member
Yeah don't think Soknacki will endorse anyone. He will stay till the very end. If he loses he will probably just go back to his business.
TFC
Active Member
I think it would be awesome to see Soknacki back on council. He would probably be able to do great things under either Chow or Tory.
VTB
Active Member
Notwithstanding what the two posters above said, which is entirely reasonable, this too is my dream situation. Of all the platforms revealed to various degrees so far, his is the most coherent and relevant. I think between him and Chow and/or Tory, they could probably be able to get council on side for a lot of it too. Ah, and then there's reality............