Second_in_pie
Senior Member
^^ Yeah, but no driver in their right mind would go 60 on a road that says 40, "cushion of safety" or not. There are some streets that this of course would make sense, but it won't work everywhere.
For mountain bikes, the average bicycle speed is between 20-30 km/h.
^^ Yeah, but no driver in their right mind would go 60 on a road that says 40, "cushion of safety" or not. There are some streets that this of course would make sense, but it won't work everywhere.
And that is why you shouldn't try to make people go slower by making the road more difficult to navigate. You'll still get the odd stupid person doing something crazy, and on a tighter street, that could be a Death Sentence to someone, probably not the driver. It would certainly result in a lot more damage than if they just stopped or ran into a stop sign.say that to the moron driver in west end this weekend that was caught doing over 200 km/h in a 60 km/h (or was it an 80 zone, either way, very stupid and reckless)
No way anyone can do 20-30 km average, especially in a city, and especially for longer rides. Even on downhill slopes, I don't often exceed 30km. The speed limit for bikes is 32 km/h, so if you are doing 30km average, you must be exceeding that limit.
It takes me at least 30 minutes to ride to Square One, which is a 7km ride, so I am doing an average of 14km/h at the most. If I could ride my bike at 30km/h average, that means I could ride anywhere in Mississauga in less than half an hour, I would never need a car or transit.
No way anyone can do 20-30 km average, especially in a city, and especially for longer rides. Even on downhill slopes, I don't often exceed 30km. The speed limit for bikes is 32 km/h, so if you are doing 30km average, you must be exceeding that limit....
Depending on my route, I ride about 19-20km to work:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&sour...79.539986&sspn=0.108716,0.209255&ie=UTF8&z=13
I can do this ride, quickly, in about 45 minutes, though usually closer to 1 hour. 20km in 45 minutes is about 26.7km/h average speed. If it takes me a full hour, then I'm down to 20km/h.
When I lived at Bloor and Islington, my average speed to work was probably faster as I had to stop less often.
Downhill, it's easy to exceed 30km/k without even really trying (i.e. coasting).
I was waiting for a streetcar tonight outside work on Bathurst when a girl on a skateboard went north on the street pass me. Nowhere near the sidewalk though. No.
She was riding as close as possible to the inside lane almost on top of the streetcar tracks. With cars trying to pass her in that lane. She wouldn't make way, move over or anything of the sort. No. She's entitled to ride her skateboard almost in the middle of the inside lane like she was trying to prevent cars from passing.
She went up several blocks like this. She could have caused an accident if they had swerved to miss her plus the fact it was dark outside at this point. I have to add that the outside lane was fairly free of traffic at that point so I don't know what she was thinking.
Bloody insane and reckless beyong belief and a perfect example of what's happening on our streets. People are behavely outlandishly and just don't care. I almost wished this idiot girl got nailed by a passing car to teach her a invaluable lesson.
Stupidity can kill.