AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
I sincerely hope they make sure said passenger pay for such damages.
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dowlingm
Senior Member
Serious question: has that ever happened?
torontologist
Active Member
I doubt said passenger has the money to pay for the damages.
pstogios
Senior Member
Perhaps we have insurance for this.
"Liability against damage by crazy passengers"
"Liability against damage by crazy passengers"
torontologist
Active Member
Considering our streetcars, new and old, seem to take the brunt of the damage from crazy passengers, I would hope so.
1overcosc
Active Member
Isn't the TTC self insured?
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
How do you self ensure?
Tuscani01
Senior Member
You put enough money aside to deal with issues on your own.
pstogios
Senior Member
nfitz
Superstar
Yes, 4404 and 4405 again. 4400 showed up on one route last night. And 4403 the other evening. We know that 4407 is in for repairs. Not sure where 4406 is ...
An unusual week.
pstogios
Senior Member
I started formally filing complaints with the TTC. I have no idea if they care. Or how much influence a customer complaint has. But they need to know that whatever is going on is not cool.
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What exactly were you complaining about? The TTC has a mix of type of streetcar and which type are sent out is hardly something to complain to them about. Of course, if they had enough new ones to run only that kind on a route (new ones on Spadina [for example) one might reasonably expect them to do this. As Bombardier has totally screwed up the order they don't and Spadina is, as advertised, running a mix of cars.
FC_
New Member
I can totally understand the complaint. It's probably coming from the same frustration I'm having.
Prior to splitting Flexities between the 509 and 510, there was a reasonable chance of catching a 510 Flexity with Presto, and that was with fewer Flexities in service. That chance now is completely non-existent, making Presto service totally unreliable.
Granted this will get better as more Flexities arrive (eventually), and Presto gets implemented across the system, but their (proposed) plan for rolling out Presto on all legacy streetcars by 2015 seems dubious at best.
Edit: Just saw this in the Presto Card thread, maybe there's a chance Presto will start showing up on older streetcars soon!
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pstogios
Senior Member
This is precisely why I am complaining. This is tied to the Presto rollout.
Furthermore, I as a Toronto taxpayer and TTC customer have paid for these LFLRV's. I expect them to be used. Or, if they are not in service, I am entitled to a reasonable and transparent explanation as to why not.
I.e. Where is 4406? Does anyone know?
I.e. Why does 4400 and 4403 "show up" (as nfitz said) one evening, but not others?
I.e. Why is there no public explanation as to why the rebuild of 4401 and 4402 is taking so long?
wopchop
Building Toronto
You also paid for the old CLRVs. Should we also issue complaints when they are not ALL in service?