TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

[drum118]

To meet with some nebulous unpublicized delivery schedule - perhaps.

But what TTC has been reporting every month, is the number of cars in service. And the target TTC has been saying to the media has been 64 cars in service. The first car in service in 2018 was 4458. So car 64 in service for the year should be car 4521. If 4570 and 4571 do come from Kingston, then it's car 4519 that's must be delivered and put into service before New Year's.

Correct, if 4514 is the last to enter service this month.

I'm guessing we'll get a surge of car deliveries before Christmas, but too late to push into service, given the Christmas holidays and too many cars to process at once.

I'm also guessing that they'll get positive spin from TTC if they don't achieve 64 in-service, but the 64th car is already delivered by year end. And really, if they are that close to their schedule - I'll be thrilled!

My outlook for 2018 wasn't positive in early 2018 as well the end of 2017 based on BBD track recorder, but willing to sit back to see if I was going to be wrong. Up to Sept, it looked like I was going to be wrong, but the wheels started to fall off.

No matter which way you cut it, both delivery and in service numbers are going to be short like past years and look forward to the spin doctors reports on this as well 2019 outlook. I had my misgiving for 2019 based on this year schedule as well 2017 early this year and will say we will not see 4603 in service until 2020. We may not see that car until 2020, along with a number of other cars.

If 4514 does make service this year, still got 90 to go into service as well retest all the cars going to QC. Have added 4401 since it will be a new production car and hasn't seen service yet.

Its a guessing game now as to how many cars will be ship this year, as well how many will be in service based on current turn around; what is on hand and what we see next week. If the cars can enter service sooner than 15 days, we well still be short for this year, but not as bad as it could be compare to seeing less if it takes longer than 15 days or having no cars on hand.

Between new cars arriving and returning cars from repairs, TTC staff will be hard press getting all the new cars into service in 2019. Then there is the maintenance of the fleet as well including damage ones.

With Ford in power, TTC and Toronto in for a Royal Screw job, with transit riders been kick to the curb. This will apply to other systems as well.

 

[drum118]

4512 is now tracking and a lot faster than the last batch. May see it out testing any day. Could be in service by Dec 16 with 4513 by the 20th.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

4512 is now tracking and a lot faster than the last batch. May see it out testing any day. Could be in service by Dec 16 with 4513 by the 20th.

Wow, that is really quick with 4512. Compared to 4508, obviously.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Hopefully Bombardier get's the add on order for 60 more cars, and the thread ends in 2021 at 4663.

And with talk of a further 100 cars, perhaps in 2026 or so at 4762 or 4799!

4514 and 4515 en route, will make Sudbury by this evening.



What, no extension order?

With transit nerds, a thread isn’t dead until the last ‘what if’ has been beaten to death. ;-)

- Paul

I know that they might get the add-on orders, but can't imagine this thread going to 2026. It has already been going for 13 years, can't imagine another 11-12 years on this thread.

 

[Toronto1834]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1071089750130483202

 

[JamesKoole]

Guess they ran out of white numbers in Kingston for the one above the front windshield?

 

[smallspy]

Guess they ran out of white numbers in Kingston for the one above the front windshield?

The spec given to Bombardier was for black numbers. The TTC has never changed it, and so installs them once they arrive.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1071089750130483202

When will 4572 get to Toronto ?

 

[crs1026]

When will 4572 get to Toronto ?

Don’t know precisely (yet).... but it will likely come to Lambton Yard on the overnight transfer from CN Mac Yard, it’s just a matter of how the connections work. Maybe one of the Kingston deliveries will come through the Weston tunnel in daylight!

- Paul

 

[drum118]

4512 just left the yard for its first test run and days ahead of last batch of cars.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Flexities 4499, 4494, 4408, 4500, 4456, 4464, 4428 are on 501 currently, as extras.

 

[crs1026]

4515 and 4515 have both reached Toronto, will be delivered to Hillcrest next week. 4516 ready to ship from the Bay.

- Paul

 

[nfitz]

Flexities 4499, 4494, 4408, 4500, 4456, 4464, 4428 are on 501 currently, as extras.

Hmm, and nine buses as well - all at the west end. don't see any service notices on the TTC website, but the 501L looks to be all buses today.

Nextbus shows 22 Flexities signed on 501 now. A rare day with buses, Flexities, CLRVs (15) and ALRVs (4) all on this route.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Hmm, and nine buses as well - all at the west end. don't see any service notices on the TTC website, but the 501L looks to be all buses today.

Nextbus shows 22 Flexities signed on 501 now. A rare day with buses, Flexities, CLRVs (15) and ALRVs (4) all on this route.

Because of emergency sewer repairs, 501L will be all buses until further notice. There are 22 Flexities due to construction along the 504 today.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Flexities 4496, 4447, 4503, 4489, 4442, 4484, 4481, 4451, 4443, 4487 and 4472 are all signed into 501A extras, and right now, 501A as well is about 90% Flexity.