cplchanb
Senior Member
I guess this is something that Alstom has to answer for since they are the operators
Toronto Union Pearson Express | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | MMM Group Limited
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Maybe it's a case of because they were "new", we don't have to check on all the things that could wrong.
T3G
Senior Member
Alstom has a contract with Metrolinx. If they are failing to meet the terms of the contract, it is on Metrolinx to correct that, or seek damages, in such a way as the contract permits.
To the end user, whether it is materially the fault of Alstom or Metrolinx is irrelevant.
evanb
New Member
I agree we can't definitively blame Metrolinx here until more info comes out about why the brake discs failed like this.
But I wouldn't call it a trivial situation - our airport express rail system is completely offline for the indefinite future. This is a very big deal!
W. K. Lis
Superstar
From link.
SERVICE ALERT:
UP Express guests: Train service has been replaced by GO bus service due to required maintenance on our UP Express trains.
There is 15-minute express GO bus service between Pearson and Union Station. Weston and Bloor customers should take the TTC.
Please do not use the Trip Planner function on the Up Express App.
We appreciate your patience as we take steps to ensure UP Express services remain among the safest and most reliable in North America.
junctionist
Senior Member
It's nice to see 15-minute service restored, but losing access to the line at Weston and Bloor is really bad.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
The TTC just announced they are increasing service on the 900 during the UP Express disruption for the weekend.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Everyone needs to think about the situation here. These cars are a unique set, they are non standard vs the rest of the fleet. They don't have 800 other cars to swap with it something goes wrong.
This happened with the LRC's in the 90's with cracked axles. Nobody blamed VIA at that point.
But the issue here is due to high platforms they cannot swap them with other cars in the fleet.
We live in a world today post pandemic where cold medicine and baby formula is not available on the shelf. The same could be with disk brakes.
Maybe they were a bad batch. Maybe they kept them in service longer because parts were not available.
drum118
Superstar
UPX Is not servicing Weston and Bloor Station at this time
Since these 2 stations are out of service and a train every hourly, ML most likely try to get away with either a 2 car train with 2 as spares until more are brought back on line or move to an 3/4 train.
TTC increasing service to Pearson International Airport this weekend
Feb. 11, 2023
The TTC is increasing service on its 900 Airport Express route for the remainder of this weekend, to provide customers with additional options for travel to and from Pearson International Airport.
Beginning at 5:30 p.m. this Sat., Feb. 11, buses will be operating between Kipling Station and Pearson International Airport every eight minutes or less.
The 900 Airport Express operates from approximately 5:30 a.m. to 2 a.m. Monday through Saturday, and from approximately 8:15 a.m. to 2:15 a.m. on Sunday.
The Airport Express route stops only at Kipling Station, Dundas Street West and Acorn Avenue, Dundas Street West and East Mall Crescent, Jetliner Road at Airport Road, Terminal 1, and Terminal 3 at Pearson International Airport. Travel time between the airport and Kipling Station is approximately 20-25 minutes.
In addition, the TTC is also increasing service on the 52A Lawrence West route, with buses operating between Pearson International Airport and Lawrence West Station. The 54A Lawrence West will also stop at Weston GO Station.
These service increases will be in place until end-of-day on Sun. Feb 12. The TTC will continue to monitor passenger volume to determine if airport service will be increased into next week.
Customers who are travelling to the airport overnight are encouraged to consider the 300A Bloor-Danforth route, which runs along Danforth Avenue and Bloor Street to Pearson International Airport between approximately 2 – 5 a.m. They can also access the 332 Eglinton West route, from Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue and Toronto Pearson International Airport.
For additional information, and help planning their trip, customers can visit https://www.ttc.ca/en/riding-the-ttc/Service-to-the-airport/Toronto-Pearson-International-Airport.
Since these 2 stations are out of service and a train every hourly, ML most likely try to get away with either a 2 car train with 2 as spares until more are brought back on line or move to an 3/4 train.
TTC increasing service to Pearson International Airport this weekend
Feb. 11, 2023
The TTC is increasing service on its 900 Airport Express route for the remainder of this weekend, to provide customers with additional options for travel to and from Pearson International Airport.
Beginning at 5:30 p.m. this Sat., Feb. 11, buses will be operating between Kipling Station and Pearson International Airport every eight minutes or less.
The 900 Airport Express operates from approximately 5:30 a.m. to 2 a.m. Monday through Saturday, and from approximately 8:15 a.m. to 2:15 a.m. on Sunday.
The Airport Express route stops only at Kipling Station, Dundas Street West and Acorn Avenue, Dundas Street West and East Mall Crescent, Jetliner Road at Airport Road, Terminal 1, and Terminal 3 at Pearson International Airport. Travel time between the airport and Kipling Station is approximately 20-25 minutes.
In addition, the TTC is also increasing service on the 52A Lawrence West route, with buses operating between Pearson International Airport and Lawrence West Station. The 54A Lawrence West will also stop at Weston GO Station.
These service increases will be in place until end-of-day on Sun. Feb 12. The TTC will continue to monitor passenger volume to determine if airport service will be increased into next week.
Customers who are travelling to the airport overnight are encouraged to consider the 300A Bloor-Danforth route, which runs along Danforth Avenue and Bloor Street to Pearson International Airport between approximately 2 – 5 a.m. They can also access the 332 Eglinton West route, from Yonge Street and Eglinton Avenue and Toronto Pearson International Airport.
For additional information, and help planning their trip, customers can visit https://www.ttc.ca/en/riding-the-ttc/Service-to-the-airport/Toronto-Pearson-International-Airport.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
GO could run trains to those stations just can't use the airport spur.
drum118
Superstar
What about the weekend?? They do for weekday, but no help for those going to/from the airport at this time. Someone was on the phone at Weston looking for a ride as there was no service there today.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Well it's TTC territory so ... they could take the TTC... But where at Union are buses departing? The bus terminal?
APTA-2048
Senior Member
I saw the rail replacement buses on Bremner Boulevard today. So if I had to guess, the Skywalk.
nfitz
Superstar
That's quite the trek for the uninitiated.
1911343, member: 1057"]Maybe it's a case of because they were "new", we don't have to check on all the things that could wrong.[/QUOTE]Alstom has similar contracts for all the GO Trains. Which also have similar brakes.
If Metrolinx were being transparent, that would be a fair comment. But they aren't. As far as I know, they haven't even commented on the cause of this.[QUOTE="W. K. Lis, post:
christiesplits
Senior Member
Good God and here I was thinking the UPX was the one transit service in this city that was functional.