Toronto Tableau Condominiums | 124.05m | 36s | Urban Capital | Wallman Architects

Exactly ... that points been made over and over again but from street level height really becomes irrelevant once you get over 50 stories or so - particularly with glass structures.

New York is a good example, they really do not have too many 300m+ buildings at all compared to some Asian cities. You really only appreciate the giant 300m+ buildings when their isolated and on their own. If you've ever seen some of these beasts in person they really give off a tower in the park impression! I'm not kidding at all! They're usually built with sprawling bases and are no where near other buildings.


Anyway, regarding the comment about Mississauga, last time I checked Absolute was what 160m+ so maybe you mean Markham ...
 
Red Mars said:
Is it safe to guess that our "city planners" do not live downtown or in Toronto?
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Many live in North Toronto. I know a planner who told me there's a huge battle of egos going on in the planning department--new school kids basically vs old suburban farts. The old farts just don't wanna change...the new kids love change (aka Euro-style planning) but have no power. Sounds like a fun work environment...:D Actually, sounds like all the companies I've worked for....

I would say the height restriction is probably from the old farts...while the kids realize design relationships matter the most.
 
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taal said:
Anyway, regarding the comment about Mississauga, last time I checked Absolute was what 160m+ so maybe you mean Markham ...
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Haha I was joking about Mississauga planners making the rules to stick it to Toronto and take all the glory themselves..
*insert evil laugh*
 
Not so bizarre. Rather clever.
Soho has long stood for the area north of Queen.
By saying its South Soho, it starts to brand
the neighbourhood south of queen, yet north of
King.
 
From a brokers event held onsite last night.

Entrance to the model suite.
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Floors two and three contain office space.
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The model in full.
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Drink, talk and buy.
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Architect Rudy Wallman, David Wex of Urban Capital and Rony Hirsch, President of Malibu Investments.
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i can't believe how many "openings" developers have these days....they've been selling for weeks already...at least 2 weeks ago...now another "opening"? lol.
 
The base is definitely over-sized for the tower... looks odd. I think he pulled off the large podium better with the Yorkville Residences but the ground-level effect should be quite something, and that's what counts a million times more than the tower from a far-away, distant view that in a dense area nobody will ever see anyway.
 
It looks relatively pretty in a model or rendering, I guess, but this seems like the kind of open public space that Boston City Hall (another building that looks interesting in models and renderings) was meant to provide.
 
The big grey mechanical box is rather unfortunate. If Kirkor and company can produce those faux historical towers with mechanical elements nicely integrated into the spire, why can't these supposedly more sophisticated projects do a better job integrating mechanical elements into the architecture? The mechanical box is always big and noticeable these days (especially on a minimalist tower), yet it's typically an afterthought.
 
junctionist said:
The big grey mechanical box is rather unfortunate. If Kirkor and company can produce those faux historical towers with mechanical elements nicely integrated into the spire, why can't these supposedly more sophisticated projects do a better job integrating mechanical elements into the architecture? The mechanical box is always big and noticeable these days (especially on a minimalist tower), yet it's typically an afterthought.
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Well, I guess that's the point, isn't it? Modernism isn't about hiding functionality at all costs, whereas faux historical mish-mash is. I don't mind the exposed mechanical boxes and I don't think they are "afterthoughts."
 
unimaginative2 said:
It looks relatively pretty in a model or rendering, I guess, but this seems like the kind of open public space that Boston City Hall (another building that looks interesting in models and renderings) was meant to provide.
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Why make the comparison between this podium and Boston City Hall's plaza? These are not alike at all. For starters, this podium has a much tinier footprint, it is next to a neomodern glass tower, and it is covered by a four storey canopy. I think what you are trying to say that is that it will feel "brutalist" and "out of scale" and "windswept." But I think we need to get over our knee-jerk fear of a little modernist drama. Not every part of a building has to be people-sized. The problem of inhumanity only arises when every building has a podium like this.
 
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