from the updated transit study on the development portal
while the parking supply is proposed todouble from existing conditions, the proposed parking structure is designed to accommodate the 10% of visitors arriving at the site by car during the peak periods while the remaining visitors arriveby sustainable modes of travel. Based on a projected maximum peak accumulation of 28,990 visitors, parking for the redevelopment is provided at a rate of 0.09 spaces per person.
explainer on why exhibition cant be used
LEA Response: There are no formal agreements with Exhibition Place. It is noted that ExhibitionPlace is in the process of preparing a site-wide master plan which would result in the removal ofparking spaces on the Exhibition lands. The feasibility of providing/maintaining future sharedparking arrangements with Exhibition Place was not explored given limited information on thenumber of future permanent and/or available parking spaces for Ontario Place patrons on theExhibition lands. As such, it was determined that parking would not be shared between OntarioPlace and Exhibition Place.
Sounds like the province has given the city till end of 2023 to either give an approval or most likely a denial
as for me, on principle i like the green roof/walking paths. not sure if i like them....meandering. no real reason for that, just keep them straight IMO
They are reporting 1’270 existing and 1’254 additional parking spaces to be created (2’524 total). If they’re predicting a transportation mode share of 10% auto and 14’000 peak weekend daily guests (keep in mind not all simultaneous) then they need to reduce their proposed parking even further because these numbers seriously don’t add up.
thats cause these numbers you have don't.
the total attendance between OSC, Therme, and Livenation is 28,990. Thermes predicted people per day at max occupancy is 5500 on weekends. Modal share for cars is 58%. assuming 2.5 people per car thats 1276 spaces for Therme use
Livenation itself is a flat 20k with modal share of 20% for vehicles comes out to 4000. and again use the 2.5 people per vehicle, their demand is 1600
OSC and "passive uses" are evaluated at 600
They also assume not every attraction will have 100% capacity (theres data to back this up) at the same time so shrink the total of 3500 by almost 50%.
voila required spaces is 2500.
Previously they wanted 2700 because they felt they needed it, this is more in line with reasonable expectations. They emphasize "demand is 103% of supply" in this
Should be noted that outside of livenation concert hours 7-10pm the max parking demand is like 1800
Questions can be raised about "passive uses" though apperently requesting 250 parking spaces on weekends
Im trying to find out where "appendix E" which apperently describes Thermes internal calculation on modal share to ontario place
