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micheal_can said:
Actually, there is a thread for the Releif Line North.
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I know there is, but the scope of that thread is the actual Relief Line North project, which is Line 3 from Line 2 to Line 4. IMO, the proposals in that thread for extensions to Richmond Hill via RH GO or Markham via Victoria Park/Woodbine is much more suited for the Fantasy Map thread or a 4th Relief Line Thread.

To be honest, having an individual thread for each section of the Relief Line is a good idea, but there does come some discussions that would be better suited for a general merged thread, that could potentially contain links to all the “sub-threads” and contain its own posts as well. Kind of like having a sub-forum for “Urban Life” has sub-sub-forums for “Neighbourhood Node”, “Out & About”, and “Retail”, and each sub-sub-forum have their own threads.

This then opens up the forum to some crazy ideas like this:
  • Forums
    • Buildings
      • Toronto
        • Downtown
          • CIBC Square
          • ...
        • Scarborough
          • ...
        • North York
          • ...
        • Etobicoke
          • ...
      • Mississauga
        • ...
      • ...
    • Transportation and Infrastructure
      • Transit
        • GTA
          • Toronto Transit Commission
            • Line 1: Yonge-University-Spadina Line
              • TYSSE
              • YNSE
            • Line 2: Bloor-Danforth Line
              • Scarborough Subway Extension
              • Line 2 West Extension
              • ...
            • Line 3 (Future): Relief Line
              • Relief Line South
              • Relief Line North
              • Relief Line West
              • Relief Line Extensions
            • ...
            • TTC Other Items (catch all)
          • Metrolinx
            • GO Transit
              • GO Expansion/Regional Express Rail
              • GO Construction
              • GO Service
              • ...
            • Line 5: Eglinton Crosstown LRT
            • Presto Card
            • ...
            • Metrolinx Other Items (catch all)
          • York Region Transit
            • ...
          • Union Station Revitalization
          • ...
        • Transit Fantasy Map
      • Roads
        • Ministry of Transportation
          • ...
        • City of Toronto
          • ...
        • ...
      • Cycling
        • ...
      • Parks
        • ...
      • Public Spaces
        • ...
    • ...
Sorry if I'm getting too off topic, as it is probably more appropriate to the "Forum Issues" sub-forum.
 
just to put it into perspective on what can be done if theres enough money and resources, shanghai went from practically nothing to over 10 complete lines in that same 10 years...
 
Leo_Chan said:
I know there is, but the scope of that thread is the actual Relief Line North project, which is Line 3 from Line 2 to Line 4. IMO, the proposals in that thread for extensions to Richmond Hill via RH GO or Markham via Victoria Park/Woodbine is much more suited for the Fantasy Map thread or a 4th Relief Line Thread.

To be honest, having an individual thread for each section of the Relief Line is a good idea, but there does come some discussions that would be better suited for a general merged thread, that could potentially contain links to all the “sub-threads” and contain its own posts as well. Kind of like having a sub-forum for “Urban Life” has sub-sub-forums for “Neighbourhood Node”, “Out & About”, and “Retail”, and each sub-sub-forum have their own threads.

This then opens up the forum to some crazy ideas like this:
  • Forums
    • Buildings
      • Toronto
        • Downtown
          • CIBC Square
          • ...
        • Scarborough
          • ...
        • North York
          • ...
        • Etobicoke
          • ...
      • Mississauga
        • ...
      • ...
    • Transportation and Infrastructure
      • Transit
        • GTA
          • Toronto Transit Commission
            • Line 1: Yonge-University-Spadina Line
              • TYSSE
              • YNSE
            • Line 2: Bloor-Danforth Line
              • Scarborough Subway Extension
              • Line 2 West Extension
              • ...
            • Line 3 (Future): Relief Line
              • Relief Line South
              • Relief Line North
              • Relief Line West
              • Relief Line Extensions
            • ...
            • TTC Other Items (catch all)
          • Metrolinx
            • GO Transit
              • GO Expansion/Regional Express Rail
              • GO Construction
              • GO Service
              • ...
            • Line 5: Eglinton Crosstown LRT
            • Presto Card
            • ...
            • Metrolinx Other Items (catch all)
          • York Region Transit
            • ...
          • Union Station Revitalization
          • ...
        • Transit Fantasy Map
      • Roads
        • Ministry of Transportation
          • ...
        • City of Toronto
          • ...
        • ...
      • Cycling
        • ...
      • Parks
        • ...
      • Public Spaces
        • ...
    • ...
Sorry if I'm getting too off topic, as it is probably more appropriate to the "Forum Issues" sub-forum.
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Those are some impressive indentation skills
 
cplchanb said:
just to put it into perspective on what can be done if theres enough money and resources, shanghai went from practically nothing to over 10 complete lines in that same 10 years...
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Yes, which would be awesome, but different political system (less red tape), willingness to throw all that money in infrastructure and cheaper workforce helps in major projects over there. Also, population growth in Shanghai alone from 1990 8+ Million to 2019 26+ million, deserves that sort of investment.
 
Did anyone look at the ordering on page 27 of the TTC report for priorities?

http://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commiss...ts/Chief_Executive-Officer's_Presentation.pdf

1. Scarborough Subway (now called "Line 1 East Extension")
2. DRL (which will be line 3)
3. Richmond Hill
4. Eglinton extension to the Airport
5. Finch West to Humber College
6. Bloor/Yonge
7. Sheppard East LRT and Jane LRT (still on the map!).

I wonder if this is the Provinces view or TTC's?
 
cplchanb said:
just to put it into perspective on what can be done if theres enough money and resources, shanghai went from practically nothing to over 10 complete lines in that same 10 years...
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tstormers said:
Yes, which would be awesome, but different political system (less red tape), willingness to throw all that money in infrastructure and cheaper workforce helps in major projects over there. Also, population growth in Shanghai alone from 1990 8+ Million to 2019 26+ million, deserves that sort of investment.
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Actually, the bigger problem seems to be that there is a shortage of workers. However, in a country of over 1 billion, that is not an issue.
 
tstormers said:
Yes, which would be awesome, but different political system (less red tape), willingness to throw all that money in infrastructure and cheaper workforce helps in major projects over there. Also, population growth in Shanghai alone from 1990 8+ Million to 2019 26+ million, deserves that sort of investment.
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Labour availability may affect construction speed and project - but not the decision to actual go ahead with construction. This is an entirely political issue.

AoD
 
muller877 said:
Did anyone look at the ordering on page 27 of the TTC report for priorities?

http://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2019/January_10/Reports/Chief_Executive-Officer's_Presentation.pdf

1. Scarborough Subway (now called "Line 1 East Extension")
2. DRL (which will be line 3)
3. Richmond Hill
4. Eglinton extension to the Airport
5. Finch West to Humber College
6. Bloor/Yonge
7. Sheppard East LRT and Jane LRT (still on the map!).

I wonder if this is the Provinces view or TTC's?
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It's not a numbered list of priorities. The order means nothing.
 
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