reinventingthewheel
Active Member
The bridge lives to see another day.
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unrealestate
Active Member
we sure aren't baltimore! (sorry, too soon but had to)
Also is this bridge being replaced or will new cherry be the only one?
Also is this bridge being replaced or will new cherry be the only one?
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
Only this new one will remain then eventually another halfway down towards Don Roadway. I don’t have info on this, just seen it in many plans and renders of Villiers.
christiesplits
Senior Member
max
Active Member
Erecting Destruction!
stove
New Member
How long do you reckon it'll take before residential gets built?
On a side note, I'll miss Cherry St BBQ
On a side note, I'll miss Cherry St BBQ
PL1
Active Member
Cherry St BBQ is still thereHow long do you reckon it'll take before residential gets built?
On a side note, I'll miss Cherry St BBQ
Metroscapes
Active Member
2021 Census puts Toronto's average household size at 2.4, so despite @Northern Light 's good context, that's puts you at that target (if 9,000 units is correct). And that was before the housing market fully tipped into new territory.
jxmyth_
Senior Member
As mentioned prior, shovels in the ground at the end of the decade- occupancy in 2031How long do you reckon it'll take before residential gets built?
On a side note, I'll miss Cherry St BBQ
Northern Light
Superstar
Important to weight unit size/type into the calculation:
I don't have the 2021 data handy, but 2016 is here:
graphic on p.35
Metroscapes
Active Member
A good point, for sure. The City's backgrounder on the 2021 census does not break it down, but confirms a continued downward trend amongst all households. using an average percentage vs city-wide rates, my calculation is 1.98, so a little lower, but still 16,800-17,800 residents.
greenleaf
Senior Member
I appreciate that update and analysis @Northern Light. In any case, having enough units and sizeable population to keep things walkable should be a goal here. Having a good sized full service grocery store and a big enough population here will ensure that it remains livable.
jxmyth_
Senior Member
My first instinct was “I wish more of these developments were like The Well” (self sustaining mixed used) but then I realized we ain’t figured out just how successful the Well IS beyond Instagram.
On one hand, the Well does have adjacent streets, thoroughfares and neighbourhoods to feed from, whereas that could be a tougher prospect for an island. Buuuut I do wonder what kind of businesses Villiers will get that cater to the seasonal beach & park visiting crowd (oh they’re getting a beer store/wine shop/LLBO right?).
Will also be interesting to see how residents enjoy the noise from Rebel/Cabana.
We’re just two US presidential terms away!
On one hand, the Well does have adjacent streets, thoroughfares and neighbourhoods to feed from, whereas that could be a tougher prospect for an island. Buuuut I do wonder what kind of businesses Villiers will get that cater to the seasonal beach & park visiting crowd (oh they’re getting a beer store/wine shop/LLBO right?).
Will also be interesting to see how residents enjoy the noise from Rebel/Cabana.
We’re just two US presidential terms away!
evandyk
Senior Member
The Well has a pretty dense neighbourhood surrounding it. And people complain about the Well's transit, but it does have two streetcars and is just a <10 minute walk from the subway. Unlike Villiers, which will be lucky to get a streetcar by 2040.
I think Rebel's days are numbered. The Island denizens couldn't kill it, but it won't survive being in the middle of a neighbourhood. It's got plenty of years still, though.
I think Rebel's days are numbered. The Island denizens couldn't kill it, but it won't survive being in the middle of a neighbourhood. It's got plenty of years still, though.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Full slidedeck from the Villers Island Density Study Public Meeting:
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