edmundoconnor
Active Member
I am a little late to the party, but Dennis has almost - almost - made it under the tracks to Caledonia. Come on little fella, you can do it ...
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CityPlaceN1
Senior Member
Great news!
Uncle Teddy
Senior Member
Party time.
salsa
Senior Member
ehlow
Senior Member
So the only benefit from closing Allen northbound is 3-4 months less construction on Eglinton before station construction in 2016? That doesn't really seem like much of a benefit to me.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Do the people driving to the northbound Allen ramps ever, ever, ever actually shop at any of the stores on Eglinton before the construction? Or do they just use Eglinton as a thoroughfare to get from point A to point B? Does the slowing of traffic actually cause the drivers to look at the storefronts while they are waiting to move again? Could that actually be o benefit, the slowing of the traffic? It seems to be a bit of a good news/bad news to me.
TOareaFan
Superstar
If I understand what you are saying, I think I agree.
As soon as I heard that about the potential Allen closing I thought "good news for those people stuck on Eglinton".....some of the traffic around there is local and some, as you say, are just using the road as a pass through to get to the northbound Allen......forcing those folks to go further north before they cut over for the Allen should be an overall net improvement for traffic on Eglinton itself....without at all hurting the merchants.
sixrings
Senior Member
Agreed. For some reason last summer they closed north bound Eglinton for a month and once the cars started using marlee and lawrence Eglinton became a much more pedestrian and business friendly street. In fact I emailed the councillors in the area at the time to somehow try to get some data about the street usage during the time because it was such an improvement. There are no business effected if the cars have to start using lawrence instead and you are correct that most of the drivers on eglinton are people just trying to get to the Allen and are not helping the local business.
Johnny Au
Senior Member
Josh Colle said that Marlee would be extremely congested when the Allen closes south of Lawrence.
sixrings
Senior Member
Part of the problem is staggered streets. If oakwood went straight up to Lawrence it would make it much easier. Similarly Marlee just randomly ends at both eglinton and Lawrence. To get around the area there are so many needless left and right turns to get anywhere.
Eug
Senior Member
That stretch of Eglinton is already quite slow.
DonValleyRainbow
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I take the 52 Lawrence bus for my commute. During the AM rush, it takes 5-10 minutes to get through the three lights at Blossomfield, Marlee and the Allen southbound off/on ramps (~300 metres) into Lawrence West station. I am all for shutting down Allen to reduce pain on Eglinton, but not if it makes this worse. Issues to resolve:
* The timing of the lights. Too many instances of traffic getting a green at one light, and not being able to move because traffic is stopped at the light ahead.
* There should not be a bus stop at Marlee, its close enough to Lawrence West. Walk damnit! I take issue with stops close to subway stations in general though.
* Way too much left-turning traffic from WB Lawrence to SB Marlee, as well as in and out of Lawrence Square. I can sympathize with Colle that this would be exacerbated.
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ehlow
Senior Member
This is a problem throughout the city, bus/streetcar stops only steps away from the subway station.
sixrings
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I live close enough to marlie to not understand why it even has a bus route. I see people waiting for busses one stop away from Eglinton to get to Eglinton west. Its a 3 minute walk but people dont do it because they know if they wait a bus comes. Honestly I am so pro transit but I think there is an excessive number of bus stops and street car stops.