W. K. Lis
Superstar
There might be more than the one (Eglinton) line in a few decades heading east. Can see the Sheppard Line, maybe even Finch East and Kingston having their own rapid transit lines. Better than having only one.
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There might be more than the one (Eglinton) line in a few decades heading east. Can see the Sheppard Line, maybe even Finch East and Kingston having their own rapid transit lines. Better than having only one.
hw621
Senior Member
Higher than other types of transit, not cars...
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Fun fact: TTC gauge and standard gauge are similar enough that standard gauge trains can technically operate on on the wider TTC track. Obviously, the gauge difference is big enough that high speed operations and day to day operations aren’t feasible, but at low speeds it is doable. Not practical but doable.
Johnny Au
Senior Member
Forest Hill station on May 26, 2021:
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Turns out the tweet by Metrolinx re: signal priority and the subsequent replies isn't quite correct:
Rishi @HeBuildsTransit
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Hi. I'm the lead engineer who planned, designed, and stamped the TSP interface for Finch (and is reviewing the one for ECLRT). There are a number of incorrect statements in this thread that is not accurately representing the operation. Please reach out so we can correct this.
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To start with the LRT signals do have priority which use the same algorithm as ttc today however the request calls are hundreds of metres upstream (virtual interface) which are far more effective esp as We harmonized EW cycle length & offsets for LRT progression.
AoD
Rishi @HeBuildsTransit
· 1h
Hi. I'm the lead engineer who planned, designed, and stamped the TSP interface for Finch (and is reviewing the one for ECLRT). There are a number of incorrect statements in this thread that is not accurately representing the operation. Please reach out so we can correct this.
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To start with the LRT signals do have priority which use the same algorithm as ttc today however the request calls are hundreds of metres upstream (virtual interface) which are far more effective esp as We harmonized EW cycle length & offsets for LRT progression.
AoD
whatever
Senior Member
I thought it was less a question of having the tools (ie; the algorithms) and more a political question of whether and how to deploy those tools?
Coolstar
Senior Member
At this point, I'll won't believe it until I see it in action.
Voltz
Senior Member
I've always thought it was likely an issue of there was planned to be reasonable priority at least, and the person who answered the online open house questions just was not familiar with what that meant, or of the lack of priority on other routes.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
A Twitter thread on the ECLRT signage with MX spokeswoman responding:
allengeorge
Senior Member
The lack of lagging left is unfortunate. Single stage ped clearances I don't understand.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
Of course if Toronto & ML wanted to REALLY put transit users ahead of car drivers, they would use what supposedly car loving Albertans do and use rail guards which effectively gives them 100% priority.
We know that will never happen but there are ways of getting around it. The problem is not giving a transit priority at the thru way lights and there is absolutely no excuse as to why any of the trains should have to stop at any light for any reason. The problem is the damn left hand turn lanes. Not only do they make the trains stop but also elongate the cross lights themselves as not only do they require more time for cars to turn but also for pedestrians to cross the intersection as they too have to wait for the left turning cars.
One way cities have gotten around the left-turn lanes is by getting rid of them. By this I mean not left hand turns at ANY intersections but the cars continue to travel straight for a block or two and then have a special turning lane that crosses the track and with extra left lanes and then allowing them to do a U-turn merging back on a left lane. The ability to turn is controlled by U-turn lights. They have proven very successful and not just for the trains but also for the cars and pedestrians.
The trains benefit by not having to wait at basically any intersection, left turning cars actually can turn left much easier and more of them, and pedestrians crossing back at the original intersection have a safer and longer light on which to do so and yet shrinking the cross street light times. The same can be done for the crossing streets which effectively results in only straight and right turning cars going thru any intersection. They are used in LA & Houston with their LRts and have greatly reduced LRT/car accidents because no one is ever turning left as all traffic is straight-thru.
We know that will never happen but there are ways of getting around it. The problem is not giving a transit priority at the thru way lights and there is absolutely no excuse as to why any of the trains should have to stop at any light for any reason. The problem is the damn left hand turn lanes. Not only do they make the trains stop but also elongate the cross lights themselves as not only do they require more time for cars to turn but also for pedestrians to cross the intersection as they too have to wait for the left turning cars.
One way cities have gotten around the left-turn lanes is by getting rid of them. By this I mean not left hand turns at ANY intersections but the cars continue to travel straight for a block or two and then have a special turning lane that crosses the track and with extra left lanes and then allowing them to do a U-turn merging back on a left lane. The ability to turn is controlled by U-turn lights. They have proven very successful and not just for the trains but also for the cars and pedestrians.
The trains benefit by not having to wait at basically any intersection, left turning cars actually can turn left much easier and more of them, and pedestrians crossing back at the original intersection have a safer and longer light on which to do so and yet shrinking the cross street light times. The same can be done for the crossing streets which effectively results in only straight and right turning cars going thru any intersection. They are used in LA & Houston with their LRts and have greatly reduced LRT/car accidents because no one is ever turning left as all traffic is straight-thru.
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
Local auto mechanic comes to the rescue to help Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicle keep moving on time
From link.Even when a sophisticated piece of modern transit is on the move, it can take a good Samaritan to get it where it needs to be. Last week, light rail transit vehicles were transported for testing. The transport was well covered by media, social media and here on Metrolinx News. But a story you wouldn’t have heard about, was how one local man with a wrench and will to help, arrived to keep things on track.
Biagio Ginacola outside his auto mechanic shop Silver Service Auto Repair, not far from Eglinton and Caledonia in West Toronto. (Metrolinx photo)
One of the first three Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicles on the east end of the LRT route. (Metrolinx photo)
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Local auto mechanic comes to the rescue to help Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicle keep moving on time
From link.
Even when a sophisticated piece of modern transit is on the move, it can take a good Samaritan to get it where it needs to be. Last week, light rail transit vehicles were transported for testing. The transport was well covered by media, social media and here on Metrolinx News. But a story you wouldn’t have heard about, was how one local man with a wrench and will to help, arrived to keep things on track.
Biagio Ginacola outside his auto mechanic shop Silver Service Auto Repair, not far from Eglinton and Caledonia in West Toronto. (Metrolinx photo)
One of the first three Eglinton Crosstown LRT vehicles on the east end of the LRT route. (Metrolinx photo)
Metrolinx News with the heartwarming story
Hey, I hoped they reimbursed him for the radiator hose as well! (I'm sure they did)
whatever
Senior Member
Cringe. So, so heartwarming when they share a human interest story to show how awesome the world is... and spell the poor guy's name wrong, repeatedly.
max
Active Member
Sounds like they need a Good Samaritan proofreader