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[Northern Light]

Mattamy breaks ground on 3 GTA condo developments

Mattamy Homes’ Greater Toronto Area (GTA) Urban Division officially broke ground on three condominium developments in late January: Westbend on Bloor Street West in Toronto; Mile & Creek in Milton; and Martha James in Burlington.

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This, to me, has been a badly handled site. All the retail was forced out by tail end of 2021 (my pics show them all vacant from Feb' 22).

Aside from the damage to the urban fabric, this is your marketing starting point, Location.

Having it look shoddier and deader than it was (this wasn't the nicest block) for now 14 months plus, and if they don't get going til next year, maybe over 26 months total is bad form.

I get wanting to clear out the retail decently in advance of anticipated construction, but 1-2 year lag time is just too much.

 

[Amare]

This, to me, has been a badly handled site. All the retail was forced out by tail end of 2021 (my pics show them all vacant from Feb' 22).

Aside from the damage to the urban fabric, this is your marketing starting point, Location.

Having it look shoddier and deader than it was (this wasn't the nicest block) for now 14 months plus, and if they don't get going til next year, maybe over 26 months total is bad form.

I get wanting to clear out the retail decently in advance of anticipated construction, but 1-2 year lag time is just too much.

Completely agree with you here, having this site sit vacant for all this time doesnt make sense if you're not even planning to proceed with demolition for quite some time.

 

[ProjectEnd]

Mattamy very much is working on this with the City behind the scenes. It's in no way dead, just being refined.

 

[GenerationLee]

I figured I may as well upload this, since the site can be seen here as of yesterday.

 

[Ian Jones]

And actually, it's an interesting building in that it was built as an "architect's" sort of office building (the designers Mathers & Haldenby and others were housed here--and E.R.A.'s presence continues the tradition). And it shows in the details: the brick patterning, the tilting casements, etc.

Well, if anything, this potential sacrifice and the pending disfiguration of Scientology are pendants to each other. (And one wonders if the proposed Yonge St HCD will address potential losses like this one.)

I worked for Mathers and Haldenby from 1968 to 1972 as their HQ Quantity Surveyor. They were one of the first architects who realized the cost control would get them more contracts. I worked on their 1mil.sf Robarts Library U of T, Toronto General and St Mike's hospitals and many more. There are many major projects in the GTA that were produced by M&H.
Glad it's not being demolished..

 

[Northern Light]

This one apparently got a massive bump when no one was looking; ahem @ProjectEnd LOL

@Paclo will need to revise the title and the DB to reflect an extra 10s with the height now being 60s

Information from the below:

Which is from:

Application Details

www.toronto.ca

(Cover Letter for 386 Symington )

 

[innsertnamehere]

Damn, we would have had updated plans here too from that if it wasn't missed.

 

[Paclo]

The main changes from the approved minor variance are as follows:

• Storey count increased from 50 to 60-storeys
• Height increased from 174.99m to 197.73m
• Total units increased from 495 to 640
• Total vehicular parking decreased from 102 to 91
• Total bicycle parking increased from 544 to 640

Additionally, there have been design changes in the form of volume redistributions, see below diagrams:

Updated Elevations:

Context perspectives:

 

[DavidCapizzano]

Happy to see the tower massing has been simplified, but I’m worried we’re going to get another steely blue aA balcony tower in a cluster with too many steely blue balcony towers.

 

[innsertnamehere]

What’s interesting here is that they managed to minor variance their way out of the Yonge St angular plane. Surprising given other applications on the street are still adhering to it.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

It's the only one of that lot that may actually be getting built, for good or bad...

 

[ProjectEnd]

The main changes from the approved minor variance are as follows:

• Storey count increased from 50 to 60-storeys
• Height increased from 174.99m to 197.73m
• Total units increased from 495 to 640
• Total vehicular parking decreased from 102 to 91
• Total bicycle parking increased from 544 to 640

Additionally, there have been design changes in the form of volume redistributions, see below diagrams:
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Updated Elevations:
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Context perspectives:
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Can you link the AIC? Not showing up for me :https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/u...ent-Toronto-East-York-Agenda-June-21-2023.pdf

 

[Paclo]

Can you link the AIC?

Unfortunately not, the city has taken down the page since approving the MV.

 

[Koops65]

 

[steveve]

Additional context, even at 197m this barely makes a dent in the skyline next to neighbouring proposals: