Urban Shocker
Doyenne
Perfect gardening weather all this week. I'm ripping plants out to make way for next year's plantings - veggies maybe.
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lordmandeep
Banned
lol I have some veggies that are just turning ripe to pick.
I have ton of green peppers and eggplant and radishes...
I have ton of green peppers and eggplant and radishes...
dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
My second round of herbs are just about ready to be harvested. It always makes me sad when this time of year comes, I love all the greenery that surrounds me on my small little 20 X 6 foot space.
Urban Shocker
Doyenne
lordmandeep: Mind if I draw on your expertise next spring when I plant stuff?
One of my neighbours across the laneway is having a new garage built ... with a green roof. It's been a huge construction project considering it's just a garage - he says there will be eight inches of soil on top! Personally, I think the solution my partner and I came up with in the early '90s was better - tear the garage down, plant more garden, and take transit.
One of my neighbours across the laneway is having a new garage built ... with a green roof. It's been a huge construction project considering it's just a garage - he says there will be eight inches of soil on top! Personally, I think the solution my partner and I came up with in the early '90s was better - tear the garage down, plant more garden, and take transit.
khris
Senior Member
AWCN11 CWTO 212017
Weather summary for all of Southern Ontario and
The national Capital region
Issued by Environment Canada Toronto at 4:14 PM EDT Monday 21
September 2009.
-------------------------------------------------------------
==weather event discussion==
..Four new tornadoes from August 20th outbreak..
An ongoing investigation into the tornado outbreak has lead to the
discovery of more tornadoes. This is based on new information from
eyewitnesses as well as further analysis of previously identified
tornadoes.
One added interesting note is that it appears the same Parent storm
generated intermittent tornado damage for a remarkable 125 km,
extending from new Lowell to moonstone through Gravenhurst to ril
lake.
The August 20th outbreak has now yielded 17 tornadoes, four of which
were rated f2. This now ties the record for most tornadoes in
Ontario in one day which was previously recorded on August 2nd 2006.
The updated total number of tornadoes for this season now stands at
26. In an average year Ontario has 11 tornadoes. The last time we
Had more than 2 tornadoes on one day that were f2 or higher was May
31, 1985. On that day, there were 12 f2 tornadoes or higher. The
greatest number of tornado events in one year is 29 in 2006. The
summer severe weather season normally begins in late April and
continues until early October.
Environment Canada continues to investigate reports concerning the
events of August 20th. Future storm summaries will be issued as
required over the course of the coming weeks.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Tornado location/path damage overview
Tornado 1 14 km sw of Durham to Markdale f2 tornado damage
(roughly 36 km) (significant house
+ trailer damage,
Trees down)
Tornado 2 from south of Thornbury to the f2 tornado damage
Southeast of Thornbury (many trees snapped,
(intermittent damage path of Georgian peaks sustained
Of 9 km) damage, roofs removed,
Homes damaged)
Tornado 3 Woodbridge (southwestern f2 tornado damage
Vaughan) (dozens of homes
(3.5 km long & 100 metres wide) significantly damaged,
Trees down, cars flipped)
Tornado 4 Maple (Northeastern Vaughan) f2 tornado damage
(2.7 km long & 100 metres wide) (dozens of homes
Significantly damaged,
Trees down)
Tornado 5 Newmarket area f1 tornado damage
(hockey arena almost
Demolished, royal
Canadian riding academy
Sustained damage)
Tornado 6 Gravenhurst area f0 tornado damage
(path about 10 km long (shallow rooted
And up to 900 metres wide) trees down)
Tornado 7 Milton f1 tornado damage
(light standards down,
Roof damage of medical
Centre and nearby hotel,
Trees and fences down,
Minor home damage)
Tornado 8 Haliburton forest and wildlife f1 tornado damage (very
Centre(northwest of Haliburton) large swath of trees
Damaged)
Tornado 9 redstone lake f0 tornado damage
(minor roof damage)
Tornado 10 new Lowell to edenvale f1 tornado damage
(west of Barrie) (two roofs partially
(path 12.6 km long) removed, farm shed
Collapsed, 1000 pound
Trailer moved 300 Ft)
Tornado 11 Arnstein area f1 tornado damage
Waterspout/tornado
Sightings (large swath of
Tree damage, shed moved,
Minor house damage)
Tornado 12 Bancroft/Carlow Mayo area f1 tornado damage
(se of Bancroft) funnel cloud sighting
(large areas of tree
Damage)
Tornado 13 rice lake f1 tornado damage
(se of Peterborough) (roof and tree damage,
(path about 12 km long) car moved)
Tornado 14 buckshot lake f1 tornado damage
(nw of Plevna) (trees down and cottage
(1.2 km long & 400 metres wide) damaged)
Tornado 15 dollars lake f0 tornado damage
(ne of Britt) (trees down)
Tornado 16 moonstone f0 tornado damage
(nw of Orillia) tornado sightings
(path about 3 km long) (trees down, cottages/
Homes minor damage)
Tornado 17 ril lake f1 tornado damage
(se of Huntsville) (numerous trees down)
Weather summary for all of Southern Ontario and
The national Capital region
Issued by Environment Canada Toronto at 4:14 PM EDT Monday 21
September 2009.
-------------------------------------------------------------
==weather event discussion==
..Four new tornadoes from August 20th outbreak..
An ongoing investigation into the tornado outbreak has lead to the
discovery of more tornadoes. This is based on new information from
eyewitnesses as well as further analysis of previously identified
tornadoes.
One added interesting note is that it appears the same Parent storm
generated intermittent tornado damage for a remarkable 125 km,
extending from new Lowell to moonstone through Gravenhurst to ril
lake.
The August 20th outbreak has now yielded 17 tornadoes, four of which
were rated f2. This now ties the record for most tornadoes in
Ontario in one day which was previously recorded on August 2nd 2006.
The updated total number of tornadoes for this season now stands at
26. In an average year Ontario has 11 tornadoes. The last time we
Had more than 2 tornadoes on one day that were f2 or higher was May
31, 1985. On that day, there were 12 f2 tornadoes or higher. The
greatest number of tornado events in one year is 29 in 2006. The
summer severe weather season normally begins in late April and
continues until early October.
Environment Canada continues to investigate reports concerning the
events of August 20th. Future storm summaries will be issued as
required over the course of the coming weeks.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Tornado location/path damage overview
Tornado 1 14 km sw of Durham to Markdale f2 tornado damage
(roughly 36 km) (significant house
+ trailer damage,
Trees down)
Tornado 2 from south of Thornbury to the f2 tornado damage
Southeast of Thornbury (many trees snapped,
(intermittent damage path of Georgian peaks sustained
Of 9 km) damage, roofs removed,
Homes damaged)
Tornado 3 Woodbridge (southwestern f2 tornado damage
Vaughan) (dozens of homes
(3.5 km long & 100 metres wide) significantly damaged,
Trees down, cars flipped)
Tornado 4 Maple (Northeastern Vaughan) f2 tornado damage
(2.7 km long & 100 metres wide) (dozens of homes
Significantly damaged,
Trees down)
Tornado 5 Newmarket area f1 tornado damage
(hockey arena almost
Demolished, royal
Canadian riding academy
Sustained damage)
Tornado 6 Gravenhurst area f0 tornado damage
(path about 10 km long (shallow rooted
And up to 900 metres wide) trees down)
Tornado 7 Milton f1 tornado damage
(light standards down,
Roof damage of medical
Centre and nearby hotel,
Trees and fences down,
Minor home damage)
Tornado 8 Haliburton forest and wildlife f1 tornado damage (very
Centre(northwest of Haliburton) large swath of trees
Damaged)
Tornado 9 redstone lake f0 tornado damage
(minor roof damage)
Tornado 10 new Lowell to edenvale f1 tornado damage
(west of Barrie) (two roofs partially
(path 12.6 km long) removed, farm shed
Collapsed, 1000 pound
Trailer moved 300 Ft)
Tornado 11 Arnstein area f1 tornado damage
Waterspout/tornado
Sightings (large swath of
Tree damage, shed moved,
Minor house damage)
Tornado 12 Bancroft/Carlow Mayo area f1 tornado damage
(se of Bancroft) funnel cloud sighting
(large areas of tree
Damage)
Tornado 13 rice lake f1 tornado damage
(se of Peterborough) (roof and tree damage,
(path about 12 km long) car moved)
Tornado 14 buckshot lake f1 tornado damage
(nw of Plevna) (trees down and cottage
(1.2 km long & 400 metres wide) damaged)
Tornado 15 dollars lake f0 tornado damage
(ne of Britt) (trees down)
Tornado 16 moonstone f0 tornado damage
(nw of Orillia) tornado sightings
(path about 3 km long) (trees down, cottages/
Homes minor damage)
Tornado 17 ril lake f1 tornado damage
(se of Huntsville) (numerous trees down)
Long Island Mike
Senior Member
More August 20th Severe Storm info...
Khris: Interesting info again on the 8/20 tornado outbreak - again Environment Canada investigated in depth and found evidence of four more tornadoes-somewhat unusual for August.
I am updating this post at about the time of the Autumnal Equinox-5:18 pm EDT I believe-just 10 minutes from now. Goodbye Summer 2009!
...LI MIKE
Khris: Interesting info again on the 8/20 tornado outbreak - again Environment Canada investigated in depth and found evidence of four more tornadoes-somewhat unusual for August.
I am updating this post at about the time of the Autumnal Equinox-5:18 pm EDT I believe-just 10 minutes from now. Goodbye Summer 2009!
...LI MIKE
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dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
Happy first day of fall as of 5:18pm! (grrrr!)
I've noticed in the past couple of days leaves are beginning to turn and fall on some trees already.
I've noticed in the past couple of days leaves are beginning to turn and fall on some trees already.
GenerationW
Senior Member
It's not autumn for me until we get at least three straight days in September of below 20 degrees. Looks like we'll get a bit of Native-Canadian/First-Nations summer before that happens.
If Sept. 22 is the first day of Autumn, why is the 25th the day we get closest to 12 hours of daylight rather than today? Equinox scam!
If Sept. 22 is the first day of Autumn, why is the 25th the day we get closest to 12 hours of daylight rather than today? Equinox scam!
khris
Senior Member
Sunrise on the 22nd is 7:05. And Sunset: 19:15
Sunrise on the 25th is 7:08. And Sunset: 19:09
That means there is less daylight, on the 25th. The amount of daylight has been less each day since the first day of Summer.
GenerationW
Senior Member
Exactly my point. The Autumnal Equinox (when we're supposed to have 12 hours of daylight theoretically) is Sept. 22, yet Sept. 25 is the closest day to 12 hours.
Yes, I already knew that. We have a peak of about 15 1/2 hours of daylight in late June and early July.
khris
Senior Member
Oh I get what you're saying. I misread your original post.
JasonParis
Moderator
I think the term equinox has more to do with the sun being directly over the equator for a moment in time than getting an "equal" amount of daylight and nightfall wherever one happens to be in the world.
khris
Senior Member
"An equinox occurs twice a year, when the tilt of the Earth's axis is inclined neither away from nor towards the Sun, the Sun being vertically above a point on the Equator."
According to wikipedia.
According to wikipedia.
GenerationW
Senior Member
Equinox investigation
I was thinking that perhaps they define sunrise as when the sun first peaks up over the horizon, and sunset as when the sun completely disappears from the horizon. That would account for the day of the equinox having that extra 10-12 minutes of daylight above 12 hours, if you follow my logic.
Looking at it another way, on the longest day of the year we get 15 hours and 27 minutes while the shortest is 8 hours and 56 minutes. Logic dictates they should equal 24 hours, but instead we have 23 extra minutes floating around (which, coincidentally, is 10-12 minutes x 2).
Call the weather police!
I was thinking that perhaps they define sunrise as when the sun first peaks up over the horizon, and sunset as when the sun completely disappears from the horizon. That would account for the day of the equinox having that extra 10-12 minutes of daylight above 12 hours, if you follow my logic.
Looking at it another way, on the longest day of the year we get 15 hours and 27 minutes while the shortest is 8 hours and 56 minutes. Logic dictates they should equal 24 hours, but instead we have 23 extra minutes floating around (which, coincidentally, is 10-12 minutes x 2).
Call the weather police!
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SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Reading this made me want to cry.
I know these days from hell exist but reading actual numbers for these ~9hr days chills the very essence of my being. I gotta go stock up on vitamin D soon lest I perish.