Roads: GTA West Corridor—Highway 413

[just east of the creek]

How about tolling all major 400 series highways from the borders of Halton, Peel, York, Durham? Do so in a manner that encourages us, the general public and business, to become more prudent in our driving activities, encourages development of capacities to move people and cargo using transit options throughout the regions quickly (with precedence at all intersections and roads over cars...), and funds those improvements and costs on an ongoing basis. Tolling could also encourage the use of green energies, reduce existing congestion, and speed up the development of planned transit infrastructure of various types. The tolling does not need to be at 407 levels, but being fully electronic, could certainly be tailored to meet differing specifications, maybe even give me a Transit Credit on my integrated transit card (must it be Presto?) if I live in the Region somewhere and only drive my green energy vehicle x number of km's per month?

 

[asher__jo]

Something to look into is whether there is a clause tying IO's with setting tolls on parallel routes to 407.

 

[kamira51]

Ford government not considering Brampton's request for alternative to Highway 413 through city, MPP says

It appears the Ontario Government has decided against Brampton council’s request for a boulevard running through the city instead of the planned stret...

www.thestar.com

How does one embed the link to display the image

 

[innsertnamehere]

to the surprise of absolutely no-one. The fact that Brampton thought it was a good idea to waste hundred of thousands on consultant fees for that crap-shoot of an idea is mind-boggling. It was literally the worst of both worlds. "lets make a road that is bad for cars, *and* people!"

 

[ShonTron]

Now that the province won’t consider the boulevard option, Brampton Council is likely to vote to oppose the 413.

With this vote and the Rogers MZO requests, tomorrow’s council meeting will be quite interesting.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brampton-city-council-to-consider-reversing-itself-on-support-for-highway-413-1.6325934

 

[kamira51]

Now that the province won’t consider the boulevard option, Brampton Council is likely to vote to oppose the 413.

With this vote and the Rogers MZO requests, tomorrow’s council meeting will be quite interesting.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brampton-city-council-to-consider-reversing-itself-on-support-for-highway-413-1.6325934

This honestly just proves what I said about regions "opposed" to the highway, it's all bs.

 

[allengeorge]

This honestly just proves what I said about regions "opposed" to the highway, it's all bs.

What does it prove?

 

[kamira51]

What does it prove?

Most of these cites that "oppose" the highway don't actually oppose it, some examples below.

Vaughan and King

Vaughan, King Township dispute best route for proposed GTA-West highway

Lobbyists for landowners engaged politicians on future of prime development land

www.yorkregion.com

King Township supports GTA West transportation corridor

King Township has lent its support to the GTAâWest corridor being built south of King-Vaughan municipal boundary.

www.thestar.com

It's all a show.

 

[allengeorge]

Most of these cites that "oppose" the highway don't actually oppose it, some examples below.

Vaughan and King

Vaughan, King Township dispute best route for proposed GTA-West highway

Lobbyists for landowners engaged politicians on future of prime development land

www.yorkregion.com

King Township supports GTA West transportation corridor

King Township has lent its support to the GTAâWest corridor being built south of King-Vaughan municipal boundary.

www.thestar.com

It's all a show.

Ah.

York Region for sure hasn’t seen a piece of land it wasn’t interested in paving over.

 

[TOareaFan]

York seems very keen on a highway with no transit lanes through a wetland but very opposed to a highway with transit lanes built in the whitebelt.

Self interest always rules the day...everywhere.

 

[innsertnamehere]

all the municipalities have moved to oppose this just because it has gotten a bunch of media attention - they have no intention of shifting their development patterns meaningfully to actually enable the removal of the highway.

 

[Haljackey]

The 413 isn't really a municipal/regional issue. Not much they can do about it.

The next provincial election is just over 4 months away and I am sure this will be a major issue during the campaign. No sense stirring the pot till then.

After the election, I'm sure municipal/regional politicians will promote their stance on the project to get support/media attention for the local elections held in October.

By 2023 the makeup of our local and provincial governments could look very different, and that could impact this project considerably. Conversely, it could also be pretty similar to what we have now. Up to us to decide.

 

[Steve X]

The 413 isn't really a municipal/regional issue. Not much they can do about it.

The next provincial election is just over 4 months away and I am sure this will be a major issue during the campaign. No sense stirring the pot till then.

After the election, I'm sure municipal/regional politicians will promote their stance on the project to get support/media attention for the local elections held in October.

By 2023 the makeup of our local and provincial governments could look very different, and that could impact this project considerably. Conversely, it could also be pretty similar to what we have now. Up to us to decide.

People will vote for the highway when they realize the other parties will offer nothing.

 

[kamira51]

Mississauga not interested in Ontario government's highway sales pitch | insauga

Ontario Premier Doug Ford and his government are once again trumpeting the need for a proposed highway that would cut through farmland and greenbelt areas in the western GTA. And again, Mississauga isn’t buying what the Ford government is selling. In a wide-ranging interview yesterday with...

www.insauga.com

Dont really care about Mississauga opposition towards the highway as their opinion is irrelevant, but this paragraph caught my eye.

Meanwhile, a project manager with Ontario’s Ministry of Transportation is scheduled to speak at tomorrow’s Region of Peel council meeting, where he’ll present councillors with information related to preliminary design of Hwy. 413.

 

[W. K. Lis]

A change in pace.

Too bad Highway 416 was already taken...

From link.

Too bad Area Code 413 was already taken...

From link.