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Roads: Gardiner Expressway catch-all, incl. Hybrid Design (2015-onwards)
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mburrrrr
Senior Member
Heavy rain - Gardiner flooding again. 9:30
Maybe they need to rethink the drains or slope in this area at Church/Cooper Bent 242 & 243.
They were cleaning on June 19 after the rain on June 18.
Because this happens 10:13 Ambulance required too.
EB “Safety” vehicle - not so safe - while the red lights are still flashing. Maybe testing the water depth and throw?
Until the next flash flood 11:30
Maybe they need to rethink the drains or slope in this area at Church/Cooper Bent 242 & 243.
They were cleaning on June 19 after the rain on June 18.
Because this happens 10:13 Ambulance required too.
EB “Safety” vehicle - not so safe - while the red lights are still flashing. Maybe testing the water depth and throw?
Until the next flash flood 11:30
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Bibi L
Active Member
I think the main problem for the flooding is the drain system. The gardiner has these strips that run along the expressway, which directs water that falls into it, to the sides of the gardiner where it leads down to the support columns, where we see the tubes, which lead to the ground. I’ve watched some videos of when they close the expressway for spring cleaning and they usually get rid of a lot of dirt between the strip, because it’s pretty small, as to not make car rides bumpy. I’m thinking those have been clogged with dirt, and aren’t functioning properly. Hopefully they can clean them and get them working fully again? Here is a picture of one.Heavy rain - Gardiner flooding again. 9:30
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Maybe they need to rethink the drains or slope in this area at Church/Cooper Bent 242 & 243.View attachment 580783
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They were cleaning on June 19 after the rain on June 18.
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Because this happens 10:13 Ambulance required too.
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EB “Safety” vehicle - not so safe - while the red lights are still flashing. Maybe testing the water depth and throw?
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Until the next flash flood 11:30
I’ve also always watched those drains under the gardiner, either the white or grey ones, flooding. On the parts of the gardiner that they have completely rebuilt it, they got rid of the big drain things and just replaced it with tubes.
Bibi L
Active Member
Update, they’ve closed the Gardiner Expressway east of Jarvis St off-ramp. Every vehicle is getting off that ramp, as there are no cars driving east of it. Some work vehicles were seen driving slowly and workers cleaning the drains. There are still some flooded spots.
That’s a lot of water.
No vehicles, just the Jarvis off-ramp. Westbound is still open.
That’s a lot of water.
No vehicles, just the Jarvis off-ramp. Westbound is still open.
mburrrrr
Senior Member
They were definitely plugged again since the clean out on June 19.
Crew manually cleaning it out now.
Lots of debris on the road that pooled in the area.
The new Jarvis EB on ramp is finally open!!! Oh…wait… wrong way.
11:41 update
2 cars and 1 in the wake
There was a car hiding in there. Yikes.
I guess these drains won’t stay clear for too long. Still lots of debris. Until the next heaven rain fall.
Centre drain somewhere in there.
Back to work! The centre drain is still plugged.
Dundas camera out of service. Water issue or public image?
Hopefully the earlier accident wasn’t too serious. It should be avoidable or less frequent ponding.
1:52
Bibi L
Active Member
Those drains definitely need to be rethought… They are tiny!They were definitely plugged again since the clean out on June 19.
Crew manually cleaning it out now.
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Lots of debris on the road that pooled in the area.
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The new Jarvis EB on ramp is finally open!!! Oh…wait… wrong way.
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11:41 update
2 cars and 1 in the wakeView attachment 580826
There was a car hiding in there. Yikes.
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I guess these drains won’t stay clear for too long. Still lots of debris. Until the next heaven rain fall.
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Centre drain somewhere in there.
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Back to work! The centre drain is still plugged.
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Dundas camera out of service. Water issue or public image?
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Hopefully the earlier accident wasn’t too serious. It should be avoidable or less frequent ponding.
1:52
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Haha, I remember a couple years back there was a complete standstill east, and people just made a u-turn and started exiting the expressway using that ramp. Wrong way, again.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
They were definitely plugged again since the clean out on June 19.
Crew manually cleaning it out now.
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Lots of debris on the road that pooled in the area.
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The new Jarvis EB on ramp is finally open!!! Oh…wait… wrong way.
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11:41 update
2 cars and 1 in the wakeView attachment 580826
There was a car hiding in there. Yikes.
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I guess these drains won’t stay clear for too long. Still lots of debris. Until the next heaven rain fall.
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Centre drain somewhere in there.
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Back to work! The centre drain is still plugged.
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Dundas camera out of service. Water issue or public image?
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Hopefully the earlier accident wasn’t too serious. It should be avoidable or less frequent ponding.
1:52
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Thanks for taking all the photos! Every time I drive on lakeshore and the tiniest bit of rain happened I'll see the water over flowing out of the boxes on top of the bents
drum118
Superstar
Tear the sucker down as its so outdated. You want to drive in the city, then be prepared for slow going.
What are these car folks going to do when another 100,000 car show up over the next 20 years to make things worse???
What are these car folks going to do when another 100,000 car show up over the next 20 years to make things worse???
T3G
Senior Member
They will overflow onto the local roads and make traffic hostile and/or unsafe for pedestrians and streetcars. Is this what we want to encourage?
Northern Light
Superstar
No they won't.
If the Gardiner terminated at any logical point prior to downtown from the west, there are only two spots, the closest to downtown, and not ideal would be the Humber bridges. Given the level of traffic on Lakeshore and the Queensway/Queen now in peak periods, few people if any would sustain the choice to drive that stretch, it would take hours daily, per direction. The other logical point would be at the 427, from which the diversion to Lakeshore is even more problematic and longer in distance, and the Queensway just longer.
One could fairly debate the merits of a teardown given the cost...........and to be clear, a tear down isn't going happen at this point from Jarvis westward, for the foreseeable future.......but spillover is a non-issue. .
To add, traffic on the Gardiner east of Jarvis is comparatively light, mostly flowing over Lakeshore, or via the Eastern/Adelaide/Richmond ramp complex off of DVP.
mburrrrr
Senior Member
The centre drain on bent 242 is almost clear, 9 hours later. I’ll report back on the next storm I guess. We missed the 7pm storm/wave tonight.
They probably need to go through the drain clean-out which could require a night-time lane closure on Lake Shore.
I’m surprised the drain is still dripping onto the lakeshore 5-6 hours after the rain stopped. I guess the cars would normally vaporize the pond.
9:20pm
6:39pm!!!! Maybe they were working above to clear the back-up.
Not a thing of beauty.
They probably need to go through the drain clean-out which could require a night-time lane closure on Lake Shore.
I’m surprised the drain is still dripping onto the lakeshore 5-6 hours after the rain stopped. I guess the cars would normally vaporize the pond.
9:20pm
6:39pm!!!! Maybe they were working above to clear the back-up.
Not a thing of beauty.
Bibi L
Active Member
Gardiner still closed. Looks weirdly empty now. I don’t see as many flood spots or ponds on the expressway anymore.
Bibi L
Active Member
Update, Gardiner east of Jarvis is open, as well as vehicles coming from the DVP and driving west. Vehicles are driving from both sides.
drum118
Superstar
Does anyone know if the work at the west end of the CNE is part of the Gardiner rebuilt or part of TTC ROW with a Platforms or what??? Lots of anchor bolts along that area
ethan.l.cecc
New Member
View of the Gardiner rebuild from the CN tower. Really shows how much space the highway takes up
