ChesterCopperpot
Senior Member
It doesn't mention anything to do with gambling addiction specifically there
A passionate and fairly well-written perspective on this in the Toronto Standard:
http://www.torontostandard.com/the-sprawl/a-downtown-casino-would-be-an-unmitigated-disaster
Yes, but as I said it was dead before, too. There's a really neat waterfront promenade and the revitalisation of the area East of the casino (which predates it) is brilliant, but go one block west and you are in a horrible place. It doesn't help it's surrounded by highways. I'm not blaming the casino for this, but pointing out that the neighbourhood it's in is not equivalent to Front and Blue Jays Way, where the mode share for car trips is under 15%.
A passionate and fairly well-written perspective on this in the Toronto Standard:
http://www.torontostandard.com/the-sprawl/a-downtown-casino-would-be-an-unmitigated-disaster
The "group whore" metaphor, though, makes for an apt parallel to my past comparisons of UTers who go ga-ga over ooh! aah! glossy renderings of skyscrapers, casino resorts, etc to the sorts of guys whose notion of desirable femininity is drawn completely from Victoria's Secret catalogues and the like...
If gaming inhabits a space within a diversified tourism industry and within a diversified economy, though, communities may benefit – if they can successfully measure and manage gambling’s social and economic costs.
Should Toronto City Council decide to host a casino in Toronto, the Board of Health
recommends a number of measures that should be considered to reduce or prevent the
harms from gambling:
Limit casino hours of operation (no 24-hour access to casinos)
Limit electronic gaming machines (such as slot machines), slow down their
speed of play and control their operation
Eliminate casino loyalty programs
Prohibit ATMs on the casino floor
Prohibit casino credit and holding accounts
Reduce maximum bet sizes
Require daily loss maximums
Implement strong casino self-exclusion programs
Issue monthly statements to gamblers
Restrict where alcohol can be purchased/served
The goal of this casino should be to tap into the potential customers who live within a day's drive of the city, not to tap the local customers who suffer from gambling addiction. Lets do what we can to mitigate that problem and put the casino where it would be the greatest success fr attracting tourists and convention trade.180 million customers live and work within a day’s drive of Toronto, including 125 million Americans or roughly 40 per cent of the U.S. population.
The goal of this casino should be to tap into the potential customers who live within a day's drive of the city, not to tap the local customers who suffer from gambling addiction. Lets do what we can to mitigate that problem and put the casino where it would be the greatest success fr attracting tourists and convention trade.
"different strokes for different folks,"
Adma's world view is unfortunately a world view firmly entrenched in the 19th century, supported by a paternalistic father-knows-best attitude, people who seem to be entitled to make moral judgements on behalf of everyone else, inluding the "uneducated" or the "unwashed". Many times on this forum it's taken for granted that no one else is capable of holding thoughts or opinions on their own when it comes to the city in which they live. Dismissed, please go to the back of the bus. Throwing in a few slangy current references do not hide the fact that posters like this find other opinions quaint, cute but ultimately beneath their paternalistic "vastly superior intellect". This is heavy duty moralism at work here--and it's really apparent when it comes to a discussion about a Toronto casino. Fire, brimstone and judgement find a home easily here.
Everything everyone linked further down didn't really have much conclusive to say about this (other than perhaps organized crime - which isn't really a neighbourhood issue). The only possible link I could see, was if suddenly an area was busier because of more people being around, then crime would, of course, increase ... but without any change to the crime rate.My personal concern is more with violent assaults and disturbances, not organised crime per se.
The goal of this casino should be to tap into the potential customers who live within a day's drive of the city, not to tap the local customers who suffer from gambling addiction. Lets do what we can to mitigate that problem and put the casino where it would be the greatest success fr attracting tourists and convention trade.
Adma's world view is unfortunately a world view firmly entrenched in the 19th century, supported by a paternalistic father-knows-best attitude, people who seem to be entitled to make moral judgements on behalf of everyone else, inluding the "uneducated" or the "unwashed". Many times on this forum it's taken for granted that no one else is capable of holding thoughts or opinions on their own when it comes to the city in which they live. Dismissed, please go to the back of the bus. Throwing in a few slangy current references do not hide the fact that posters like this find other opinions quaint, cute but ultimately beneath their paternalistic "vastly superior intellect". This is heavy duty moralism at work here--and it's really apparent when it comes to a discussion about a Toronto casino. Fire, brimstone and judgement find a home easily here.