afransen
Senior Member
It's been called by several major outlets for Biden. I would be more worried about PA and Nevada.
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November 2020 US Election
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adma
Superstar
Actually, the Ontario system is more similar to the US than in virtually any other province same the Maritimes--if not altogether governmentally, than as a familiar geographic ordering-of-the-land--and neither regionalization in the 70s nor mega-amalgamation in the 90s has detracted from the fact; even the Northern districts have always operated as de facto "counties". And that ordering-of-the-land has been hardwired through common tools such as road maps so that a typical Ontarian would, until relatively recently at least, have been expected to know their Huron from a Bruce from a Grey. By comparison, the nature of Quebec's municipal reorganizations since the 70s have diminished that "county-based" geographic order, while it was never that strong in the Western Provinces ("counties" in Alberta are more like single-tier township/borough entities).
In the US, the county-based network has remained virtually static since the 1920s/30s (i.e. starting long before Alaska and Hawaii); and states like Massachusetts which have largely abolished counties as *governmental* units still maintain them as collective *geographic* units, regardless of whether their configurations make sense in the present day. And there's been very little attempt at municipal mega-amalgamation, or single-tier--city-county entities like Nashville and Indianapolis and Lexington or certain of Virginia's "independent cities"--more often than not, it's a matter of adjusting the status of an existing entity (like a town/township becoming a city, common in the periphery of places like Cleveland or Minneapolis). Even Virginia's "independent cities" are much more distinctly conveyed as county-equivalent affairs through mapping and electoral stats and the like--by comparison, Ontario's cities might be governmentally "independent", but they've traditionally been conveyed in all other respects as geographically part of a county.
Think of it as the Rand McNally lay of the land, and Americans have clung to that county-centric geographic self-definition as stubbornly as they've clung to the Electoral College, and any attempt at top-to-bottom "reform" (along the lines of whatever anyplace from Quebec to the UK enacted in the 70s) would probably register as "socialistic" and hence alien. Or if Ontario operated like much of the US does, the GTA would still have entities like "Ontario County" (consisting of most of present-day Durham Region, with Ramara added to the top)
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Trump was smart to play up to Cubans in Florida, but dumb to attack John McCain’s legacy in Arizona.
Soop
Active Member
Biden has surpassed Obama for most votes ever for a presidential candidate (popular vote). Obama got 69,498,516 in 2008. Biden is currently over 71 million.
Jasmine18
Senior Member
Biden is at over 72 million, Trump at 68.6 million, Both Candidates are up over 6 million votes from 2016.
Still millions of ballots to count in states like California and texas so Biden may go to like 75 million and Trump over 70 million.
Epic turnout.
The popular vote margin looks to be heading to about 3.5% or so, polls suggested around 8-9%.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Without a Dem Senate I don't see Biden getting much done. Hopefully this serves as a message to the Democrats that they need to abandon the Socialist far left and return to the centre. Republicans might need to do the same thing.
afransen
Senior Member
Still a big miss, but within the realms of possibility in the models. Nate Silver was getting pretty defensive.
It's interesting that the polling error has now been wrong in the same direction several times. One wonders what is driving this. It can't really be that Trump votes are conspiracy theorists who think pollsters are part of the deep state, right?
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Polling needs to change, move away from the surveys, robocalls, questionnaires and active participating with the subject population. Instead start passively profiling the people into narrower and narrower groups. Cuban Americans, then male, then age, then education, etc, boil it down until you have a small group of perhaps a few hundred people. Then do it again, and again, and again. This is what Google and Facebook analytics does. I bet someone at Google knew how the vote was going just by searching everyone's gmail, search history and google drive contents.
Richard White
Senior Member
Rick Santorum was on CNN last night talking about a federal system of voting and how that is never going to work. He said something about how it is much riskier, fraught with problems and easier to corrupt. They were claiming that because the US has election rules set by the state there are far more different ways of doing things making it harder for people to corrupt the system.
I laughed at this because Canada, the EU, The UK and pretty much every other democratic nation on earth has one system for elections not 52 (including Guam and Puerto Rico).
Can you imagine Canada having 13 different sets of election rules or the EU having 27 (not including the the internal voting rules for each country).
I laughed at this because Canada, the EU, The UK and pretty much every other democratic nation on earth has one system for elections not 52 (including Guam and Puerto Rico).
Can you imagine Canada having 13 different sets of election rules or the EU having 27 (not including the the internal voting rules for each country).
gabe
Senior Member
It's not all bad news this election.
www.fox5ny.com
www.lgbtqnation.com
globalnews.ca
NY elects two openly gay Black men to Congress
New York Democrats Mondaire Jones and Ritchie Torres have become the first openly gay Black men to be elected to Congress.
The sheriff fired her because she’s a lesbian so she ran against him. She’ll be the new sheriff now.
Charmaine McGuffey is the new sheriff in town, defeating both her former boss and a Republican challenger...
U.S. election: Sarah McBride becomes first openly transgender state senator - National | Globalnews.ca
'I hope tonight shows an LGBTQ kid that our democracy is big enough for them, too.'
globalnews.ca
jayme2016
Active Member
Its been great for Biden but this was going to be a blue wave in short this is a nightmare for the Dems.
Richard White
Senior Member
Noo...Georgia is a nightmare for the Dems. Biden or Trump could lose it by .01 percent of the vote. If Biden wins Georgia and loses everything else Trump and BIden tie.
jayme2016
Active Member
The fear many have is Biden wins but the Dems don't win the senate and lose seats in the house of reps.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Biden needs to win two of the following
Arizona
Nevada
Georgia
Pennsylvania
North Carolina (unlikely)
New results rolling in are working in his favour. Biden will likely eke out a win.
Still inexcusable not to win by bigger margins during a pandemic and recession.
Arizona
Nevada
Georgia
Pennsylvania
North Carolina (unlikely)
New results rolling in are working in his favour. Biden will likely eke out a win.
Still inexcusable not to win by bigger margins during a pandemic and recession.
syn
Senior Member
It's incredibly difficult to unseat an incumbent President. Rarely happens.
Trump has done an awful job, but he inspires passion in his followers. That's tough to beat.
I will say, if one doesn't like Trump I don't think this election could be anymore "satisfying". He's gone from thinking he had a guaranteed win on his hands to slowly watching it all fall apart.