MetroMan
Senior Member
^ I think it's the final televised debate, yes. I'm also looking to find a stream since I don't have cable.
Once a candidate commits to staying in after the cut-off date and keeping their name on the ballot, I believe they are obligated to stay in it to the end. "Dropping out" is a betrayal of the electorate and shows a lack of integrity. But if that only bothers me, so be it.what's cowardly/gutless about it? You seem keen to slag but aren't really telling us why. And it's not like their supporters can't still vote for them, they've simply acknowledged that they're not in contention. It'd be no different than the dozens upon dozens of candidates throughout the city who have realized they have no chance of winning and have resigned to the fact that they won't be in Council, only without the heavy media presence.
Poor analogy. By rule, the game is automatically over if the home team is leading after the top of the ninth. Thomson and Rossi were both on the field of play and then quit with the game still going on before the ninth inning.Can you believe these gutless coward baseball teams that quit before the bottom of the ninth when the home team is ahead? Sure, there's no way you can win, but finish the game!
Never mind him -- who do his current and former wives and current and former mistresses support?One more in George's corner. FFS Pants, time to listen to the progressives here and get out of the way!
Globe&Mail story
So David Miller actually has the courage of his convictions. What a novel concept!What's even more baffling is David Miller telling people to ignore the media and vote for Joe. Really? Does he really think that Somehow magically, the polls will be wrong by as much as 30% in his favour? Does Miller really want to see his legacy of 7 years destroyed in under 1?
Once a candidate commits to staying in after the cut-off date and keeping their name on the ballot, I believe they are obligated to stay in it to the end. "Dropping out" is a betrayal of the electorate and shows a lack of integrity. But if that only bothers me, so be it.
And find me these dozens upon dozens of candidates for councilor who have "dropped out" after September 10.
Just heard Pantalone on CBC Radio Morning declaring he would either spoil his ballot or refrain from voting if faced with a choice of only Ford or Smitherman. He says one is just as bad as the other.
What an utter disgrace he has become. For a politician to actually promote staying at home as a possible option in an election is beyond the pale; after 30 years, does he not understand that politics is about making choices -- usually among a range of unpalatable options?
Pantalone has repeatedly said he's not dropping out. When asked by Karen Horseman on CBC Metro Morning Monday who he would endorse if he did drop out, Pantalone said he would either not vote or spoil his ballot.
"If that was a choice between Rob Ford and George Smitherman, I would not vote or I would go and simply spoil my ballot," Pantalone said.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/10/18/toronto-nanos-mayoral-poll.html#ixzz12j1No1L6
Just heard Pantalone on CBC Radio Morning declaring he would either spoil his ballot or refrain from voting if faced with a choice of only Ford or Smitherman. He says one is just as bad as the other.
and a sore loser.
I'm a little confused. Did not Pantalone vote yesterday? I could have sworn he was shown on CP24 at the advance polls. Or maybe it was a fuzzy odd dream, sort of like last night's Mad Men...
"If that was a choice between Rob Ford and George Smitherman, I would not vote or I would go and simply spoil my ballot," Pantalone said.
It was probably a hypothetical question along the lines of, "if you had to choose between Ford and Smitherman, who would you vote for?"
Well they are staying in it until the end. They've just said they won't be campaigning anymore. By all means, vote for them, but they won't be actively seeking your vote for whatever the reason.
There's been no 3rd candidate who's gotten more than 10% in Toronto elections as far as I could find. The most was Barbara Hall in 2003 where she got 9% and John Tory and Miller fought for the top spot. Given the soft support for Pants demonstrated in the latest poll, I think I'm beginning to feel a little comfortable knowing that he'll lose at least 1/3 of his support (5%) to Smitherman which should put him over the top.