wwwebster
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The original Park School:
from:
http://archive.org/stream/biographiesofind00bureuoft#page/n0/mode/2up
from:
http://archive.org/stream/biographiesofind00bureuoft#page/n0/mode/2up
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Miscellany Toronto Photographs: Then and Now
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Anna
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the_lemurs revival of that old post reminded me of the impact, the sheer sense of drama of the front steps of Park/Nelson Mandela School.
I think it's because of the scale/impressive size and sweep of the steps.. there isn't anything else like it in Toronto.
Worth a look-see in person for those of you who like their school architecture grand. The School Board and the Masons went all out on this one.
So, thanks, the_lemur.
According to the TDSB website, Nelson Mandela Park school is the oldest public school in Toronto on its original site.
Unfinished Nelson Mandela School reno puts kids in limbo
(looks like the Star got the original construction date wrong)
the lemur
Senior Member
Right
I think Mustapha has this one right too. Is that the 1910 Goad's? Here is the 1924 Goad's showing the new Park School where it is now, on the north side of Sydenham (now Shuter).
I think it was either the 1910 or 1912 Goad's. I was not aware that the school had moved - thanks. But I think what's confusing me is that Sydenham on the old maps is what the extension of Shuter is, and yet there is still a short stretch of Sydenham south of that.
wwwebster
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the lemur
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What part of the building was that? And what happened to the store?
mattelderca
Active Member
In the building on the left of the then and now, on the curved front. If you look at the interior shot you can see the oval windows that are in this st view.
I imagine the store front was bricked up some years ago. Nice pics wwebster!!
the lemur
Senior Member
The brickwork looks significantly different now - it's like the store was never there ...
vecchietto
New Member
That station is around the corner from me. Never would have expected such a shop there.
Too bad it's gone. Looks like I could have got everything there to make my home cozy: lamps, vacuum cleaner, electric fireplace insert, waffle iron, samovar...
Way more elegant than Gerrard Square, too.
Too bad it's gone. Looks like I could have got everything there to make my home cozy: lamps, vacuum cleaner, electric fireplace insert, waffle iron, samovar...
Way more elegant than Gerrard Square, too.
Anna
Active Member
I think someone just decided to re-use the Sydenham street name in the Trefann Court development because it wasn't being used any more.
Historical designation for Park School here with maps and photos
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2012/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-46632.pdf
Mustapha
Senior Member
Good grief. Page 20. "Retardation".
Mustapha
Senior Member
A little to the left:
Amazing. Properly amazing.
Mustapha
Senior Member
This shop has been gone so long now... how quaint and of-the-times that electricity could be seen as a labour saver, a source of smokeless heat and light, etc. And, one can hardly imagine a world without vacuum cleaners, can one?
.As for Gerrard Square, the Winners store there recently furnished me with several 'Donald Trump' brand neckties (I know, I know). Never have I seen such thick richly patterned fabric, wide too - I wear my neckties in the British style with large knots. Purveyors of elegance are in every corner of Toronto.
Welcome vecchietto.
Mustapha
Senior Member
My bad... the original Park School was to the north of the present one.
Mustapha
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Then and Now for September 14, 2012.
Then. Women munitions workers play a game of baseball at the John Inglis Co. Bren gun plant. May 10, 1941.
Now. May 2012. 'Liberty Villlage' neighbourhood. Looking W at the NW corner of Liberty and Pirandello Streets.
Lots of history in these two photos. As this is a daily thing for me, I'll condense/distill it as best I can. In the old picture that is 'Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl' at bat. A famous lady; Google her, lots of info and pictures. She worked for the John Inglis Co. in 'war work' producing Bren Machine Guns. The John Inglis Co. factory complex stood just to the south (left) of both pictures. A section of Central Prison (1873 to 1991) can be seen in the old picture. All that is left today is the prison chapel, which I have used as my Now picture. The chapel windows and the brick treatment on the building corners aren't a match up to the windows in the Then picture so I believe the Then picture shows a now demolished part of Central Prison. So consider this Then and Now to be a simulacrum, if you will.
Bren guns, for the uninitiated, were a 'light machine gun' designed to be carried and fired by an individual soldier - as opposed to the kind you see in the war movies where you have a second soldier to carry an ammunition box and tripod and feed the weapon via a 'belt' of bullets while both soldiers are lying behind sandbags or in a foxhole, etc. The name 'Bren' comes from a conjunction of Brno, the Czechoslovak city where it was originally designed and Enfield [UK], site of The Royal Small Arms Factory [the Brits adopted the Bren after a competition in the 1930s]. The whole point of a light machine gun [LMG] was it could put out a lot of bullets and keep an enemy pinned down while soldiers - some carrying the LMG and some carrying lighter 'individual' weapons [slower firing, less bullet capacity] - advanced leap frog style to close with the enemy. That's where the military term 'fire and movement' comes from.
Then. Women munitions workers play a game of baseball at the John Inglis Co. Bren gun plant. May 10, 1941.
Now. May 2012. 'Liberty Villlage' neighbourhood. Looking W at the NW corner of Liberty and Pirandello Streets.
Lots of history in these two photos. As this is a daily thing for me, I'll condense/distill it as best I can. In the old picture that is 'Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl' at bat. A famous lady; Google her, lots of info and pictures. She worked for the John Inglis Co. in 'war work' producing Bren Machine Guns. The John Inglis Co. factory complex stood just to the south (left) of both pictures. A section of Central Prison (1873 to 1991) can be seen in the old picture. All that is left today is the prison chapel, which I have used as my Now picture. The chapel windows and the brick treatment on the building corners aren't a match up to the windows in the Then picture so I believe the Then picture shows a now demolished part of Central Prison. So consider this Then and Now to be a simulacrum, if you will.
Bren guns, for the uninitiated, were a 'light machine gun' designed to be carried and fired by an individual soldier - as opposed to the kind you see in the war movies where you have a second soldier to carry an ammunition box and tripod and feed the weapon via a 'belt' of bullets while both soldiers are lying behind sandbags or in a foxhole, etc. The name 'Bren' comes from a conjunction of Brno, the Czechoslovak city where it was originally designed and Enfield [UK], site of The Royal Small Arms Factory [the Brits adopted the Bren after a competition in the 1930s]. The whole point of a light machine gun [LMG] was it could put out a lot of bullets and keep an enemy pinned down while soldiers - some carrying the LMG and some carrying lighter 'individual' weapons [slower firing, less bullet capacity] - advanced leap frog style to close with the enemy. That's where the military term 'fire and movement' comes from.
mattelderca
Active Member
I think you nailed this one Moose! The two corner windows have been changed but everything else lines up!
The two small square windows, the chimeny, a possible hole in the brick where the dust collector (it looks like one) sat in 41, the eave framing and even the doorway on the right. In your now pic this door almost looks like a bus shelter, but it is definetly in the then picture as well. The grade has been changed but other than that I would say it is the building for sure.
The two small square windows, the chimeny, a possible hole in the brick where the dust collector (it looks like one) sat in 41, the eave framing and even the doorway on the right. In your now pic this door almost looks like a bus shelter, but it is definetly in the then picture as well. The grade has been changed but other than that I would say it is the building for sure.