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Miller finally rips on Royson James

I'm really getting sick of Miller's feigned outrage concerning anyone who disagrees with him. He really needs to address the issues in this city instead of being our photo op mayor.
The question is, is everyone else sick of him sufficiently to remove him from office next election?

The next municipal election will take place on Monday, November 8, 2010. In less than 36 months Torontonians will get their chance to decide if Miller's worthy of their continued support.
 
In my opinion, "hanging" refers to capital punishment as part of a state's judicial or justice system. A "lynching" on the other hand, IMO, refers to mob rule and killing people outside of a state's justice system. Of course, we could argue killing is killing, but I think there's a distinct difference in the two words.

I think James is alluding to a sort of mob rule. So in my opinion, lynching sounds more accurate. There's no capital punishment for city spending activities.
 
Rob Ford's Spending Habits...

Personally I like Miller and his left leaning politics. It is troubling however to see the way he has moved the mayors office towards autocratic rule. Furthermore, I rarely agree with anything Rob Ford has to say, but I do support him 100% on his position on councillors budgets. Seems ridiculous that Miller took such half baked measures as closing libraries and public pools to counter budget shortfalls, and yet Rob Ford takes a common sense (perhaps exemplary) approach to his own expenses and he is threatened with disciplinary action. Ford has it all right in this article, where he states that the only need for receipts to be submitted is so councillors can be reimbursed... Millers point about there being a need for an audit trail is obsurd... read for yourself:

from cbc.ca

Toronto city Coun. Rob Ford was formally reprimanded by the city's executive committee on Monday for not spending enough taxpayers' money.

Ford is the ultimate penny-pincher on council, spending nothing of his allotted $53,000 office budget this year.

Ford pays his office expenses out of his own pocket. He buys the stamps, the envelopes and pays the cellphone bills himself.

But that goes against the city's ethics rules that call for transparency in public spending, the underlying principle being that the public should know who is paying so there is no chance individuals or companies could use the money as a lever to ask for favours.

"You don't spend private money, or developers' money, or anybody else's money on things like your newsletters. You spend the public money because there's an audit trail, it's accountable," said Mayor David Miller.

There is no suggestion Ford is doing anything improper, but strictly speaking, he is breaking the rules.

Ford said he's done nothing wrong. He said he has been blessed with good fortune and he doesn't want to charge Toronto taxpayers for something he's happy to pay for.

"I can do what I want with my own money. I choose not to submit receipts because I don't want to be reimbursed. The only reason these councillors submit receipts is because they want to be reimbursed," Ford said.

He's also fighting back by posting all of the office expenses of his fellow councillors on his website, item by item.

He has long argued that office budgets are just slush funds and that some councillors have spent thousands of dollars this year on lunches and dinners, sometimes involving alcohol.

Possible pay suspension
"There's councillors at 2:30 in the morning taking cab rides. What are they doing at 2:30 in the morning taking cabs from downtown going to Woodbridge? Hundreds of dollars being spent," said Ford.

Ford's refusal to submit receipts and get reimbursed could land him a suspension of his pay for three months.

That doesn't worry Ford, who said, "I'm not going to die without three months' pay. What are they going to do next, throw me in jail?"

Council will decide on the punishment at its next meeting on Dec. 12.
 
Redroom Studios:

It might be counter-intuitive, and it migh make taxpayers "feel good", but the whole idea of having a set budget is so that the money can be traced. How does one know that it is his own money?

Beyond that, Rob Ford is hardly the person I'd count on for integrity - considering he had been using his City of Toronto letterhead for his own personal business and the ACC affair.

AoD
 
Look, I hate Ford as much as anyone. I think he's a bufoon and possibly worse than that. I've been quite supportive of Miller but I think he's getting terrible political advice lately. In these times of budgetary restraint, the last thing Miller should be taking on is a councillor who spends his own money for constituency work. Miller has single handedly raised Ford's profile to heroic status. Who exactly is Miller listening to these days? He really needs to get a seasoned chief of staff who's not afraid to challenge him.
 
My letter to TheStar:

Hello, I'm a faithful subscriber to TheStar. I am strongly considering canceling my subscrition due to the escalating "Toronto Sun" like comments by Royson James in regards to our mayor over the past few months, culminating in a recent inexcusable article.

This is regarding this Royson James article: Councillors need lesson on economy

Please clarify how such a hurtful comment passed by the editors of the Star. When did The Star abandon journalistic principles such as confirming sources and refraining from inciting hate?

I would like to see a public apology by Royson James to the mayor, to the councillors and citizens of Toronto and above all, to the readers of the Toronto Star who would expect to see such comments on another daily Toronto paper.

James should be disciplined for this article no less.

I look forward to your reply. In the meanwhile, my family and I as readers of The Toronto Star is hanging in the balance.

A concerned subscriber.
 
no doubt Ford is a shit disturber... but then again so am I. If anything he has made the rest of council look bad on this spending issue for years. I would take Ford at his word on his estimate of work related expenses coming to a few thousand dollars a year. It just shows how many of the others are in it for the perks. I fail to see how Ford using anyone's money other than his own makes sense: what is the logic in a sponsor or lobbyist paying for something he is entitled to with public funds in the first place? Maybe that is the wave of the future though... city governmet operating like our schools do these days... selling candy to raise funds for office supplies... maybe the council chamber could be sponsored by a giant corporation? garbage trucks with beer ads on the side... a giant Casino Rama mural on the north outer walls of City Hall... whatever it takes to balance the budget!

The city's budgetary problems make it clear that human nature rules - that those in positions of management are the last to look at themselves as areas for cuts. Power corrupts (usually)

To repeat, I dont like Ford on any other issue. I do like Miller on a personal level. I think he seems to do a poor job at picking his battles and often gets drawn into personal attacks as evidenced by the articles relating to the topic of this thread. Miller is infinitely better than Mel Lastman and I think he has a good, progressive vision of what the city should be. No leaders are perfect, all have their faults and detractors. Miller stands a good chance of another term unless someone with more star power comes along...
 
Redroom, there is absolutely no way to run an office that actually provides any kind of community service for a few thousand dollars. It's impossible, unless you want councillors with no staff and no contact with their wards. The only way Ford does it is by using his private company's office to do most of his councillor work.
 
lol great clip! Yes, a few here should look in the mirror and notice what the unwashed outside world is seeing/reading on these boards. From wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_the_cat

Sylvester is a tuxedo cat who shows much pride in himself, and never gives up. Despite (or perhaps because of) his pride and persistence, Sylvester was, with rare exceptions, placed squarely on the "loser" side of the Looney Tunes winner/loser hierarchy. His character was basically that of Wile E. Coyote while he was chasing mice or birds. (One cartoon episode The Wild Chase paired Sylvester and Wile E. Coyote against the Road Runner and Speedy Gonzales. In the end both Sylvester and Wile E. fail as usual.) He shows a different character when paired with Porky Pig in explorations of spooky places, in which he doesn't speak as a scaredy cat. (In these cartoons, he basically plays the terrified Costello to Porky's oblivious Abbott.) Perhaps Sylvester's most developed role is in a series of Robert McKimson-directed shorts, in which the character is a hapless mouse-catching instructor to his dubious son, Sylvester Junior, with the "mouse" being a powerful baby kangaroo. His alternately confident and bewildered episodes bring his son to shame, while Sylvester himself is reduced to nervous breakdowns.

Exactly:)

If we're veering off topic, please bring it back with some commentary on Giorgio's 'expense' account. Don't leave it all up to the Sun and Ford.
 
I know. I sent an email to the public editor and the editor about this. No apology from the Star, nothing, except James' lame-ass response last Monday.

Though notice how Royson James missed his usual Friday and Monday columns?
 

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