unimaginative2
Senior Member
That's a good idea. Most tourists won't really ride a bus, but they'll take streetcars. A streetcar and subway map of downtown is a good idea for tourist guides.
What list of route numbers? I'm not advocating a list of route numbers. I was advocating the streetcar map. I don't see much value in the other one, and not having anything good to say about it, never mentioned it.If you don't already know which routes connect to which stations, a list of route numbers will be entirely meaningless and useless without accompanying route maps for each route number...in other words, without a Ride Guide.
... except for the piece of your post I replied to, where you said The streetcar map is useless, the surface connection map already exists in a superior form in the Ride Guide.I've only been talking about the second map.
If the Streetcar-only map isn't acceptable to the TTC for general circulation in the system, then they should perhaps consider it for tourist guides, etc.
Yeah, I simply stated it was useless and then you went on to address my comments about the second (subway) map.
Anyway, the point is that both maps are well-made and well-intentioned, but ultimately useless.
There's actually a different TTC route map that I've seen a couple times. They have one in a committee room at City Hall, and it shows all the bus routes as a separate line with different colours. It's a fantastic map, but it's ha-uuge.
Kudos to anyone who makes fantasy maps or any other TTC themed artwork. However I must agree. The transit system cannot ignore everything but streetcars and subways. If we are to encourage transit use, we have to show people that ther are connections to get them as close to their destination as possible.
Perhaps the Ride Guide could be adjusted to show streetcar lines as zig-zags or dashes or a darker shade of red...or whatever. This would eliminate the need for superfluous supplemental maps that by nature will be inferior to the Ride Guide. With the electronic stop displays, I even question the need for individual route maps in surface vehicles. But this is the TTC, and the needs of tens outweigh the needs of thousands, so they might jump on novelty maps like these.