RJR123
Active Member
Actually, it's a very factual opinion. Travelling to NYC at least 3 times per year I can attest to this opinion as being very firmly rooted in reality.
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Actually, it's a very factual opinion. Travelling to NYC at least 3 times per year I can attest to this opinion as being very firmly rooted in reality.
Pep'rJack
Active Member
^ You must be joking. I lived there between '01 and '03. NY is cleaner than it's been in decades, and TO is probably dirtier than it's ever been, but it's still not even close: NY is much, MUCH dirtier. Note that I'm talking about the entire city, not just, like, Fifth Ave. or something.
Hipster Duck
Senior Member
Ugh. During the summer the yob quotient just goes through the roof.
The other night I caught two drunken 19 year old Dubliners trying to hit on my girlfriend at the same time. I tried to appeal to their sense of literary patriotism by talking to them about James Joyce and, sure enough, they fled for the door.
CDL.TO
Moderator
The I-hate-Toronto selection of letters at the Sun has really thinned out as of late. With this current budget crisis, I would be expecting a flood of letters declaring "I don't want MY tax dollars supporting Toronto" from the Bancrofts and Ennismores of the province but there are none to be found. It's enough to make one start wondering if a Sun editor reads this forum.
Anyway, not to do with Toronto but pertaining to the Sun itself, I recall reading a quote many months ago from a Sun person stating "of course we're a tabloid". Nice to see it reinforced in today's edition (and to keep a copy on the forum for archival purposes)...
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Once a tabloid ...
Are you guys a tabloid now? Run your little story on Kate Hudson being at the cottage in the entertainment section, fine, whatever. But don't go make it front-page material! On the same day that Barry Bonds broke the home run record. People are laughing at your paper today.
Adam Truax
[Editor:] (Actually, we are a tabloid)
Anyway, not to do with Toronto but pertaining to the Sun itself, I recall reading a quote many months ago from a Sun person stating "of course we're a tabloid". Nice to see it reinforced in today's edition (and to keep a copy on the forum for archival purposes)...
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Once a tabloid ...
Are you guys a tabloid now? Run your little story on Kate Hudson being at the cottage in the entertainment section, fine, whatever. But don't go make it front-page material! On the same day that Barry Bonds broke the home run record. People are laughing at your paper today.
Adam Truax
[Editor:] (Actually, we are a tabloid)
lordmandeep
Banned
the sun has started to shift a tad to the centre.
H
Hydrogen
Guest
Then what's the point?
adma
Superstar
Is the Sun as "available" as it used to be out Bancroft/Ennismore way? Maybe that explains something...
JasonParis
Moderator
Didn't want to start a new thread, but it looks like the Sun's right-wing comp is no longer going to be distributed in Atlantic Canada (save Greater Halifax)...
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2007/08/09/natlpost-no-atlantic.html
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2007/08/09/natlpost-no-atlantic.html
CDL.TO
Moderator
A bumper edition of "Letters to the Toronto Sun"!
Oh, damn! How wrong was I? The Sun never stopped printing "blame Toronto" letters! Seems I let a letter from last Sunday slip through the cracks which I'll now post, followed with a letter from today...
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Toronto really should separate
The time has come for the city of Toronto to separate from the rest of Ontario.
A new provincial legislature should be built in, say, Barrie or Owen Sound. A deputy premier and a tribunal could sit in on Toronto business but the inordinate provincial legislature time and money spent in Toronto would, and should, come to a halt.
We ratepayers in the rest of the province could get the money we need instead of our taxes being used to make over Mayor David Miller's office. If Toronto can't run its "corporation" without going bankrupt, then so be it, the city goes bust.
If Toronto wants handguns banned, then do the same as New York City and ban them inside the city limits -- but leave the rest of Canada alone. I'm not aware of a handgun crime problem outside Toronto. Are you?
If the Mayor wants to spend several million dollars renovating his office and City Hall, then let him. But he has to get ALL the money from his constituents, not from the taxes of the rest of Ontario. Don't tell me that provincial taxpayers' money from, say, Gravenhurst, doesn't end up in the general coffers of Toronto through grants. It does!
Toronto, Toronto, Toronto, Gimme, gimme, gimme!
The mayor and his council are constantly crying that they cannot run their "house" on the money coming in. They should raise city taxes and user fees until they can. It's that simple.
But leave us tax payers in the rest of the province alone. "No more money to Toronto".
Sounds like a good election slogan for the upcoming provincial election. I'd vote for that.
ROBERT F. DAVIS
WOODVILLE, ONT.
(Former mayor Mel Lastman already proposed that idea)
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Toronto the ugly
As a Western Canadian I have come to hate what the city of Toronto is doing to Canada. I read comments in your paper from Ontarians disgusted with the out-of-control, left-wing spending and destructive social tinkering that Toronto has become famous for. How do you think we westerners feel? The slanted federal elections are over before we even start counting votes here and we get stuck with all the loony policies that originate in Toronto the Ugly. Even when a western prime minister goes back there to represent the rest of the country, he is hamstrung by the eastern civil service, the biased eastern media, having to buy Quebec/Ontario out to get votes, etc. We are taxed to death to support programs we don't want. I keep hearing the question: Where does western separatism come from? The answer is Toronto.
Chris Jenkins
(Hey, Toronto gets blamed for everything else, why not western separatism?)
Oh, damn! How wrong was I? The Sun never stopped printing "blame Toronto" letters! Seems I let a letter from last Sunday slip through the cracks which I'll now post, followed with a letter from today...
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Toronto really should separate
The time has come for the city of Toronto to separate from the rest of Ontario.
A new provincial legislature should be built in, say, Barrie or Owen Sound. A deputy premier and a tribunal could sit in on Toronto business but the inordinate provincial legislature time and money spent in Toronto would, and should, come to a halt.
We ratepayers in the rest of the province could get the money we need instead of our taxes being used to make over Mayor David Miller's office. If Toronto can't run its "corporation" without going bankrupt, then so be it, the city goes bust.
If Toronto wants handguns banned, then do the same as New York City and ban them inside the city limits -- but leave the rest of Canada alone. I'm not aware of a handgun crime problem outside Toronto. Are you?
If the Mayor wants to spend several million dollars renovating his office and City Hall, then let him. But he has to get ALL the money from his constituents, not from the taxes of the rest of Ontario. Don't tell me that provincial taxpayers' money from, say, Gravenhurst, doesn't end up in the general coffers of Toronto through grants. It does!
Toronto, Toronto, Toronto, Gimme, gimme, gimme!
The mayor and his council are constantly crying that they cannot run their "house" on the money coming in. They should raise city taxes and user fees until they can. It's that simple.
But leave us tax payers in the rest of the province alone. "No more money to Toronto".
Sounds like a good election slogan for the upcoming provincial election. I'd vote for that.
ROBERT F. DAVIS
WOODVILLE, ONT.
(Former mayor Mel Lastman already proposed that idea)
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Toronto the ugly
As a Western Canadian I have come to hate what the city of Toronto is doing to Canada. I read comments in your paper from Ontarians disgusted with the out-of-control, left-wing spending and destructive social tinkering that Toronto has become famous for. How do you think we westerners feel? The slanted federal elections are over before we even start counting votes here and we get stuck with all the loony policies that originate in Toronto the Ugly. Even when a western prime minister goes back there to represent the rest of the country, he is hamstrung by the eastern civil service, the biased eastern media, having to buy Quebec/Ontario out to get votes, etc. We are taxed to death to support programs we don't want. I keep hearing the question: Where does western separatism come from? The answer is Toronto.
Chris Jenkins
(Hey, Toronto gets blamed for everything else, why not western separatism?)
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Hydrogen
Guest
That damn Toronto-born Stephen Harper! That anti-western, tinkering socialist, policy-wonking, civil-serviced, media-biased, vote-buying bastard!
What we need in this country is a Western-Canadian leader and a grass-roots conservative party for him to lead, and make sure no socialist Torontonians get into power. Then the country will be dandy!
What we need in this country is a Western-Canadian leader and a grass-roots conservative party for him to lead, and make sure no socialist Torontonians get into power. Then the country will be dandy!
Filip
Senior Member
I literally find it mind-blowing how many idiots this country has.. Not just that, but they're so vocal about it!
Jayomatic
Active Member
and the sad thing is that people like that seem to make up 80% of the population.
unimaginative2
Senior Member
Of the male population, at least.
lordmandeep
Banned
which like only 40% ever vote.
caltrane74
Senior Member
Only when the residents of Woodville Ontario are using holes in their backyards as a municipal sewer system will they realize how much money Toronto contributes to the provincial coffers....