LAz
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We need a NDP like party that is socially conservative. That will kill the conservative party. Right now I know that there are people who would vote for the cons only because these guys are socially conservative. They don't bother to consider the economics, aka what actually matters in the world.
This has never happened, has it?
They'll never get enough votes, would they?
What might be a cause of change and them changing are two different things though.
For example... how will you ever get the BP on board? Never. Unless if you let them retain the old system - which I think is fair.
Socialism is the "last step" in a country's transition to communism.
All the things I said previous still hold true. Why some people like to say that oh socialism is this fancy pancy stuff were there is some welfare and some of this and some of that, BS, sweden is not socialist, nor is it a fraction of socialism. NDP is not socialist, nor are they remotely like socialist. Welfare state is not socialism, unless if you are one of those new conservative neoliberal nutcases or a person still stuck with the red scare.
I mean dude, consider any of the socialist writings and whatnot... the whole epicenter of it all is to topple the private capitalist pig that is exploiting the workers. Hence the private sector greedy pig is the problem, and the key aspect of socialism is that this pig does not exist.
You on the other hand can counter that with your american influenced news media that says otherwise. Heck, did you hear , obama is a socialist ! If Obama is a socialist, by the wrong definitions of socialism, then yeah sure NDP is too. If we use the real definitions, then neither are. So yeah, I feel you bro, the tea partiers do too! We gotta oppose those islamofascist commies! [/sarcasm] [/lulz]
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Did you hear? All of europe is socialist!
if the party with the highest popular vote doesn't win the most seats in an election.
This has never happened, has it?
The other possibility is a coalition government whereby the NDP or Greens use electoral reform as one of its stipulations for joining the coalition.
They'll never get enough votes, would they?
There are many good academic articles on why voting systems change (one of my former profs Dennis Pilon has written extensively about it).
What might be a cause of change and them changing are two different things though.
For example... how will you ever get the BP on board? Never. Unless if you let them retain the old system - which I think is fair.
You seem to be confusing Socialism for Communism.
Socialism is the "last step" in a country's transition to communism.
All the things I said previous still hold true. Why some people like to say that oh socialism is this fancy pancy stuff were there is some welfare and some of this and some of that, BS, sweden is not socialist, nor is it a fraction of socialism. NDP is not socialist, nor are they remotely like socialist. Welfare state is not socialism, unless if you are one of those new conservative neoliberal nutcases or a person still stuck with the red scare.
I mean dude, consider any of the socialist writings and whatnot... the whole epicenter of it all is to topple the private capitalist pig that is exploiting the workers. Hence the private sector greedy pig is the problem, and the key aspect of socialism is that this pig does not exist.
You on the other hand can counter that with your american influenced news media that says otherwise. Heck, did you hear , obama is a socialist ! If Obama is a socialist, by the wrong definitions of socialism, then yeah sure NDP is too. If we use the real definitions, then neither are. So yeah, I feel you bro, the tea partiers do too! We gotta oppose those islamofascist commies! [/sarcasm] [/lulz]
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Did you hear? All of europe is socialist!
![we-are-all-socialists-large.jpg](http://hopemarin.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/we-are-all-socialists-large.jpg)
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