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Home Grown Terror...

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Men attended `training camp': Sources
Jun. 3, 2006. 09:17 AM
MICHELLE SHEPHARD, SURYA BHATTACHARYA AND STAN JOSEY
STAFF REPORTERS

A group of Canadian teenagers and young men in their 20s, accused by police of being members of a suspected homegrown terrorist cell, will appear in court this morning to face accusations that they plotted to attack Canadian targets, the Toronto Star has learned.

Some members of the group allegedly attended a "training camp" north of the city where they made a video imitating military warfare, and the suspects allegedly had acquired weapons and listed targets in Ontario, sources told the Star.

Led by the RCMP's anti-terrorism task force, more than 400 police officers from across Ontario made the series of arrests last night and early this morning, taking as many as a dozen suspects into custody at a heavily guarded Pickering police station. Sources said there was a concern that some of the group's members had acquired explosives.

The arrested men were driven one by one into the Ajax Pickering community police station at Brock and Kingston Rds. and were taken into the underground garage for processing. Unmarked police cars lined up outside the door, with one car being allowed in approximately every 15 minutes.

Members of the Durham region tactical unit were stationed at one-metre intervals providing a security wall around the police property. Just before 11:30 p.m., five vans belonging to Toronto police's elite Emergency Task Force unit and the force's canine unit converged on a Scarborough home.

The arrests were expected to continue overnight and early this morning, sources say.

Sources told the Star that the group had been watched by Canada's spy service since 2004 and a criminal investigation by the RCMP began last year.

It's not known specifically why police acted last night and none of the allegations have been proven in court.

The group is being charged under the new anti-terrorism legislation introduced into the criminal code in December 2001, after the 9/11 attacks. It's only the second time the terrorism laws have been used in Canada.

Mohammad Momin Khawaja, an Ottawa-area software operator, was the first person arrested on terrorism charges and will stand trial in January for his alleged connection to a British group.

Sources close to last night's investigation are calling the suspects arrested yesterday a "homegrown" group, meaning they are Canadian citizens or long-time residents, raised and allegedly radicalized without leaving the country. It's a phenomenon Canadian officials have been warning about for the past few years.

The London bombings on the subway and a double-decker bus last July were blamed on a homegrown British group.

Although the RCMP would not talk about the arrests last night, community sources confirmed the names of three of the men now behind bars.

Fahim Ahmad, a 22-year-old Scarborough father, was arrested late yesterday. He allegedly rented a car last summer for two men who were later caught bringing weapons across the border into Canada.

The arrests of two other men from Mississauga — brothers-in-law Ahmad Ghany and Zakaria Amara — shocked neighbours and family who said they couldn't believe the allegations.

"I think they have it wrong. Those guys have nothing to do with (terrorism)," said Scarborough Imam Aly Hindy.

Hindy has been a high profile critic of the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service, accusing the federal agency of targeting Muslims who criticize the foreign policies of Western governments.

He believes this is what led to the arrests yesterday.

"Because they are young people, and they are Muslims, they are saying it's terrorism," he said in an interview last night.

Ahmad had only moved into the Scarborough area, near Sheppard Ave. and Markham Rd., a few weeks ago.

"This is a good community and we're very shocked by the news. We leave our whole family here for the whole day, including our small children, and come back to this," said local resident Qadeer Mohammed.

"This very shocking, and the whole community will be affected."

The case is critical for Canada's international reputation and will be scrutinized worldwide as it works its way through the courts.

There has been cause for skepticism concerning the ability of Canada's intelligence and police services to prosecute security cases. Since 9/11, the majority of high-profile security investigations have ended in international embarrassment, such as the acquittal of suspects in the Air India bombing case and the Maher Arar affair which raised questions about international information sharing, exposed an inexperienced federal police force and left an Ottawa man broken after his deportation, detention and torture in Syria.

Then there was Project Thread, a 2003 joint immigration-RCMP case touted as the dismantling of an Al Qaeda cell, but ending in a routine immigration case that sent Pakistani students home branded terrorists.

With files from Bob Mitchell
 
From yahoo.ca news:

RCMP says terror suspects had 3 tonnes of explosive, 17 involved
19 minutes ago

TORONTO (CP) - Police say they've foiled a series of terrorist attacks against targets in southern Ontario.

The RCMP have arrested and charged 12 male adults who are to appear in court today in Brampton, west of Toronto. In addition, five youths face a host of terrorism-related charges.

The announcement came at a news conference following a series of arrests last night on a group that the Mounties say posed a "real and serious threat."

In addition to the arrests, police recovered three tonnes of ammonium nitrate, a commonly used fertilizer used in the making of explosives. The RCMP says this is three time the amount used in the Oklahoma City bombing in the 1990s.

Police say the Toronto Transit Commission - a public transit system that includes buses, subways and streetcars - was not among the targets.

Luc Portelance of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service says those arrested are Canadian residents from variety of backgrounds.

The RCMP says the sweep began last night in co-operation with an Integrated National Security Enforcement Team, or INSET.

INSET teams are made up of members of the RCMP, CSIS, federal agencies such as the Canada Border Services Agency and Citizenship and Immigration Canada, and provincial and municipal police services.

The dramatic events raised the chilling prospect of a terrorist assault on Canadian soil - which authorities have feared since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S.

Scores of officers, many heavily armed, took suspects into custody at a - police station in Pickering, Ont., east of Toronto, following the raids.

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TORONTO (CP) - A list of the adults arrested and charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada. Five youths, who cannot be named, were also charged:

1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto;

2. Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.;

3. Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga;

4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga;

5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga;

6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.;

7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston;

8. Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto;

9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto;

10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, Toronto;

11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga;

12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.

AoD
 
If what we're hearing is true, then good job to those involved. Good policing and intelligence is the right strategy, not what our dim-witted cousins south of the border are doing which is helping Al Qaeda's cause more than anything Osama could do.
 
agreed, this is excellent work by the people who we assume but don't expect excellent work from.

Of course, now it is frontpage on CNN, say goodbye to a few thousand tourists...
 
this is crazy. way to go for the Canadian authorities who caught those mother ****ers.
 
"Such anti-terror operations in Canada are rare
(from CNN)

sigh....
 
I think that could be interpretted as "Canada doesn't have problems like this" rather than "Cdn authorities are lousy." For the avg reader, i assume they'll read it like the former.

They're all so young, mostly, these terrorists. I suppose they always were.
 
Oh my, a majority of the suspects are from Mississauga.

I can't help but be a little bit suspicious that this is some Conservative government coordinated strategy to make fighting terrorism a cornerstone of this "new government".

I can understand them making the arrests on Friday evening and holding a Press Conference on Saturday morning in order to avoid raising a state of panic among the public.

However, in my opinion these sorts of high profile arrests and statements out of Harper's office will only increase in the coming months.

Today's event was a coordinated government response, not more than 5 minutes after the press conference ended I already had a statement from Harper in my inbox.

When Bush and Harper meet in July, you can bet talk of the "war on terror" will dominate the agenda.

This strategy of scaring the public into voting Conservative is being imported from the United States, Britian and Australia where voters have been blindsided instead of focusing on the real issues.

I hope Canadians are smart enough to realize before it's too late.

Louroz
 
"where voters have been blindsided instead of focusing on the real issues."


Um, I think that a group of religious fanatics trying to blow us up counts as "a real issue", don't you?
 
Agreed. As much as I loathe what I perceive as an "Americanization" of our political system at the hands of Harper and Co., this is an entirely different matter.

From what I see of this, the planning was at an advanced stage, and this was a real threat to public safety, and economically as well.

I would expect nothing less from my government than a well coordinated response to the arrest of a cell of terrorists like this.

Quite honestly the first thing that jumped into my head when I first heard of the raids Friday night was that perhaps the entire TTC walkout was an orchestrated response to thwart a planned attack on the TTC by these people.

I was glad to hear the TTC was not a part of this particular threat, but then again, the thought of a "Murrah"-type incident in Toronto gives me the chills.
 
After reading through the posts in this thread, I notice that most of you are using language which indicates that you already assume these men are guilty. May I point out that there has been no evidence presented yet.

The assumption that the authorities involved are competent and have done their jobs well is sadly misguided, and I say that after having worked on the aforementioned cases (for years now).

In the case of Project Thread, all 24 men were assumed to be guilty and were labelled "terrorists" even before there was any investigation. The RCMP spokesperson had to admit within a week that the "vanloads" of evidence amounted to nothing, and the allegations (there never were any formal charges) were dropped. In the fine spirit of Islamophobia so popular since 9/11, Citizenship and Immigration Canada persecuted these men on the grounds that they were perpetrators of fraud (they were actually victims of a fraudulent business school) and most of them have since been deported.

Everyone should be familiar with Arar's case (and Nurredin's, and Almalki's, and El Maati's). He was innocent, but was the victim of blatant violations of deportation regulations to which both Canada and the US are signatories. Arar's case was a warning sign as he is a Canadian citizen, proving that citizenship is not in itelf a protection in these cases of persecution.

The Secret Trial 5, five men under "security certificates" are a clear example of how inept CSIS can be. They have never produced a single shred of convincing evidence that any of these men are guilty of anything, yet the men continue to be held under conditions far worse than convicted murderers, as our liberal and conservative governments refuse to bow to the international condemnation of our violations of civil rights. One man was released after it was proven that CSIS was mishandling his case; he was re-arrested on evidence already dismissed, and our government and judicial system find this acceptable.


Will Canada be the victim of a terrorist attack? Inevitably, and more likely than not as we continue to occupy countries such as Iraq and Haiti.

Can we stop it? No. How do we think we can stop every crazy extremist with a bomb or poisonous substance in a crowded subway, mall, stadium...

Are these men guilty? Let's see the evidence. I waited for evidence in the Project Thread cases, and it never came. I am still waiting in the cases of the Secret Trial 5.

I hope for some undeniable proof, if only so that we don't see more Muslims unfairly persecuted - their physical and mental health destroyed so that we can score brownie points with the Bush administration.
 
Will Canada be the victim of a terrorist attack? Inevitably, and more likely than not as we continue to occupy countries such as Iraq and Haiti.
If anyone, including some of the usual suspects, says that a major cause creating the alleged terrorist group busted is our combat mission at Kandahar (and our help thereby to President Bush's "Global War on Terrorism"), then that person is either:
a) ill-informed, or
b) deliberately mendacious, or
c) both.
The investigation of the group began well over a year ago when our troops were in Kabul--under NATO--essentially doing peacekeeping and not combat. The new mission to Kandahar had not even been announced. To think that that mission could in any way be a major motivator for the alleged terrorists srikes me as simply nonsensical--and likely dishonest. I hope--but do not expect--our media to raise these facts when "experts", or "representatives" of the Muslim community, raise the supposed link.
The police have done their jobs now its up to the justice system to do theirs.
 
Yeah listen to buildTO. There is no evidence that this group was up to no good. Doesn’t everyone know people who train in terrorist camps, have 3 tons of ammonium nitrate, remote detonators and guns. Stop with your left wing conspiracy bullshit. No group in position of these items is up to anything good.
 

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