Voltz
Senior Member
I almost fell off my chair in shock when I read this..
I am surprised that such a deal would even be thought of and that the TTC would agree to it.
Too bad Presto can not yet be used for this.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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I almost fell off my chair in shock when I read this..
I am surprised that such a deal would even be thought of and that the TTC would agree to it.
Too bad Presto can not yet be used for this.
Jonny5
Senior Member
Me too! I literally snarfed my drink (getting vodka up your nose is not fun btw)!
I hope this is the first domino to fall.
EDIT: NM second question answered bove
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canarob
Senior Member
Thoughts on the Stouffville changes:
-Adding two extra cars on three morning trains is great, but why not the afternoon runs?
-What is the point of the weekday 15:18 trip to Unionville only? That's the extra run we got?!? The buses are fine this time of day since there's no traffic.
-More buses are obviously an improvement, but the fact that there's now seven (!!!) bus trips between 19:00 and 19:30 really tells you how much we need a later train!
-I'm disappointed that the runs aren't closer together and the times aren't any shorter. What was the point of getting better locomotives and modernizing signals if nothing changes?!?
-Adding two extra cars on three morning trains is great, but why not the afternoon runs?
-What is the point of the weekday 15:18 trip to Unionville only? That's the extra run we got?!? The buses are fine this time of day since there's no traffic.
-More buses are obviously an improvement, but the fact that there's now seven (!!!) bus trips between 19:00 and 19:30 really tells you how much we need a later train!
-I'm disappointed that the runs aren't closer together and the times aren't any shorter. What was the point of getting better locomotives and modernizing signals if nothing changes?!?
RandomBusGuy
New Member
That sounds like they don't have enough trains to run later, but there's one free earlier that they can use for the new trip, and then quicky send it back to Union to be redeployed before the 4:18 leaves. I'm confused as to why only the morning trains are getting the added cars but not afternoon too. Maybe it's a mistake? The Barrie line also has two cars added to one of it's morning runs but says nothing about the afternoon.
I've noticed both the Stouffville and Barrie lines are getting the extended trains on October 8th. I'm assuming this is when an order of new cars arrives from Bombardier?
I've noticed both the Stouffville and Barrie lines are getting the extended trains on October 8th. I'm assuming this is when an order of new cars arrives from Bombardier?
Jonny5
Senior Member
I'm sure someone here will know for certain, but as a wild guess, I bet it was just a convenient time to move a train from downtown, back up the line for storage for the next morning. They decided to take passengers ride because, why not?
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Yeah, it's a weird new train run. But with CTC activated, it's likely the train set could easily be used to do an extra run up, then make the return trip deadheading to Union to make another peak period run from Union either on the same corridor, or another line.
All Stouffville trains are stored at the end at Lincolnville, so there is no way it's a newly in-service deadhead trip.
smallspy
Senior Member
Of course they are adding them to the afternoon run - those cars have to get up there at some point to come back down in the morning, right? I don't know why they didn't list the afternoon trains however, but it should be the 4.48 and 5.20 trains to start.
It is a quick and easy addition to the service - but that is a trainset that is already in use in the afternoon rush, and that's why it is early and thus needs to scamper back to Union.
Not only that, but a number of those trips regularly require two buses. I'm sure that GO desperately wants to add a train around 19.30, but they don't yet have a train (or crew) to do it with.
This is the just the first round. There will be more.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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canarob
Senior Member
Thanks for the update, Dan! I guess it does make sense that it would be the same trains in the morning as in the afternoon! 
mpd618
Active Member
If/when a line is electrified, that's supposed to cut down the time to stop and start at a station. Is that going to change the calculus for deadheading? I.e. a train that now deadheads to Union for another run would be able to instead provide stopping service along the way without much time penalty.
smallspy
Senior Member
Electrified trains can accelerate faster, and to a higher balancing speed, but their deceleration rate is the same as with diesels. Ultimately yes, it does reduce the time required to get over the road. The varied Train Performance Calculators that GO (and their consultants) have used have taken this into account when running the various simulations for the many electrification reports that have been written over the years.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
royalrivers
Active Member
Extra GO trains to CNE
http://www.gotransit.com/public/en/news/CNE.aspx
Extra GO Trains are running to the CNE on Labour Day weekend on all lines except Stouffville and no trains will start from Kitchener or Guelph (again) with no extra buses to connect people to Georgetown. (Meaning you are stranded in GT for a good hour)
http://www.gotransit.com/public/en/news/CNE.aspx
Extra GO Trains are running to the CNE on Labour Day weekend on all lines except Stouffville and no trains will start from Kitchener or Guelph (again) with no extra buses to connect people to Georgetown. (Meaning you are stranded in GT for a good hour)
nfitz
Superstar
There are VIA trains from both Guelph and Kitchener, not to mention frequent Greyhound service - which works very well on weekends, without the highway congestion around the GTA.
canarob
Senior Member
It looks like bridge construction is the culprit again for Stouffville. The last of the three new bridges is almost complete, so I'd imagine we'll get special event service next year.
royalrivers
Active Member
Wooooooh
If Metrolinx/GO is serious about growing the service out of Kitchener and Guelph, maybe they should provide the same service being provided to all the other lines.
If you can afford the 25$ per person on VIA/Greyhound go right ahead
nfitz
Superstar
It's not easy to add extra mid-day trains in 2 directions in sections of track where there are no signals. There's lots of ways to get from Guelph and Kitchener.