Northern Light
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Not sure what the other part is/was; but this was described as the second piece of two, implying to me that the other piece was already resolved.
Also this was described as the largest piece.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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Not sure what the other part is/was; but this was described as the second piece of two, implying to me that the other piece was already resolved.
Also this was described as the largest piece.
chrisw
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@Northern Light Yes, OnCorr is the second and largest piece of Go Expansion. The first piece of Go Expansion might've been Early Works and/or Off Corridor Works.
I read this as there being another proposal as part of the development phase of OnCorr.
What's the parts that are missing? This covers just operations and maintenance.
While the signed agreement mentions maintenance for electrification and signalling. The agreement doesn't include the infrastructure work for the track, civil infrastructure, signalling, electric infrastructure, and electric vehicles. That's a big part of OnCorr.
OnCorr also covers the procurement of new rolling stock and also the Union Station track and platform reconstruction.
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crs1026
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Metrolinx partners with ONxpress to transform GO service
New GO Expansion operator will mean more trains, less waiting and faster, more frequent service.www.metrolinx.com
According to Metrolinx, the development phase is concluded, the agreement has been signed as at January 25, 2024.
The evidence being that ONExpress assumes full operational control on January 1st 2025.
If so, the service and staffing plans for Jan 2005 are now a matter of fact and there is no commercial sensitivity in disclosing them.
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generalcanada
Senior Member
from the article:
While you might take note with it being "the largest piece". I think its simply because operations and maintenance is the most important part. building the new signals and tracks are somewhat simple comparatively speaking.
Yea we probably wont hear about new the service timetable until December at the earliest, but its not like anyone outside of railfans care
Note that there isnt really an actual price for oncorr yet. That gets announced at the end of the development phase which includes the infrastructure works
Fritter
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Metrolinx makes the CIA look like an open data point. You'd be better off trying to get info from the NSA or CSIS.
crs1026
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Way back when the Expansion P3 was first conceived, there were statements that the job of laying track and installing signals for the expanded lines would be handled by the successful bidder.. The ML on-corridor project scope was originally to only build to the fences, subgrade and grade separations, and stations. . I have no knowledge of whether this is still the case, I guess we will see soon.
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urbancog
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From this article:
"OnCorr includes all works that will unlock faster, more frequent train service, such as track, signaling, electrification work and electric vehicles, as well as the operations and maintenance of the GO rail network over the next 25 years. "
The second agreement will cover the construction of track, signaling, electrification work and electric vehicles.
Progress being made to provide faster, more frequent GO service
ONxpress and Metrolinx celebrate one year in Development Phase.
www.metrolinx.com
"OnCorr includes all works that will unlock faster, more frequent train service, such as track, signaling, electrification work and electric vehicles, as well as the operations and maintenance of the GO rail network over the next 25 years. "
The second agreement will cover the construction of track, signaling, electrification work and electric vehicles.
reinventingthewheel
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Some discussion going on in the King-Liberty station thread about future of UPX. Not wanting to derail that, decided I’d share my thoughts here. If something more concrete is known already please do share.
My suggestion: I doubt this arrangement will be chosen because at the moment there aren’t plans for Woodbine station to support a big exchange.
My suggestion: I doubt this arrangement will be chosen because at the moment there aren’t plans for Woodbine station to support a big exchange.
- UPX stops only at Union-Woodbine-Pearson
- Airport travellers from King-Lib, Bloor, Mt Dennis, Weston take GO to Woodbine and transfer onto UPX
- Additional UPX trains run as shuttles only between Woodbine-Pearson to handle increased volume of riders from GO train
Natika33
Active Member
I think it'd be a hard sell to move or change the intermediate stop away from Bloor GO - Dundas West TTC as that intersection with the subway is super handy for many.
C_Johnson_1995
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I've been thinking about this a bit, and I came to some conclusions.
With Barrie, it was a logical extension of an existing line, had a good station location, and Barrie has far greater potential, to grow, densify and be a regional hub.
With Niagara Falls, there was significant tourist demand, the line was already up to passenger standards requiring no capital investment, and with St. Catherines, it's just on the way, there's literally no reason to not stop.
Cambridge has none of these. It's growth potential is near zero due to NIMBYs and hinges on high density near a freeway, it's station is in the middle of nowhere and requires a such a long trip from the rest of Cambridge like Galt that everyone will just choose to drive. And if that's not bad enough, it's rail line is a cow path, is in really bad shape, and makes connecting with existing services on the Kitchener Line really akward.
As highlighted in Paul Langan's article, there are several developments happening along the line that threaten RoW encroachment. Honestly given the low potential of the service, it would make sense in my opinion to cede the corridor if it means we get extra housing units out of proposed developments. Every bit counts. But that's just my $0.02. Cambridge will never meet the requirements for higher order transit and we shouldn't be wasting resources on it IMO, even if those resources are just time spent planning.
Metroscapes
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While I agree Cambridge has been pretty NIMBY lately, I don't see the value of nixing a potentially valuable transportation corridor for a few extra units.
But I went disc-golfing at Four Fathers in Hespeler Village earlier this evening, and was greeted by this mess along the Fergus Spur. Looks like ditch maintenance, some fresh ballast, and crossing signal maintenance? Looks like quite a bit of work for a corridor that's got only a couple customers left.
But I went disc-golfing at Four Fathers in Hespeler Village earlier this evening, and was greeted by this mess along the Fergus Spur. Looks like ditch maintenance, some fresh ballast, and crossing signal maintenance? Looks like quite a bit of work for a corridor that's got only a couple customers left.
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stanko
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Really packed on LSW today even with the 15 minute service to/from Oakville as of this weekend
416InTrouble
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Will the new 15 Min service make stops at
Mimico and or long branch???
Mimico and or long branch???
