mdrejhon
Senior Member
That is some real serious detouring to be done during deployment of RER.
Now that would be an interesting ride!It looks like they will be detouring Lakeshore West trains via the Galt and Canpa Subs, and apparently will be also including a stop at Kipling Station, which is tentatively scheduled to get a new platform on the south side of the corridor.
I can't believe I missed this question earlier, but does anyone have a rail switch diagram for Aldershot thru West Harbour/Hunter? And the changes the bridge would bring? It would go a long wayntpwards answering this question.Question regarding the new Desjardins bridge: Does this do anything for Hamilton Centre, or do the same constraints still exist (CP)? I figured with the associated switch work that will need to take place that it could be done in such a way that it would be easier to slot GO into CP's freight schedule to reduce conflicts in and around Bayview Junction. I do realize that the biggest constraint is still the Hunter St Tunnel, but I was wondering if this expansion/reconfiguration would help, even just a little bit.
There is going to be some serious work on the eastern-most section of the Oakville Sub coming up in the next couple of years - serious enough to require a number of weekend closures. It looks like they will be detouring Lakeshore West trains via the Galt and Canpa Subs, and apparently will be also including a stop at Kipling Station, which is tentatively scheduled to get a new platform on the south side of the corridor.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
There'll probably be more enthusiasts on-board than passengers actually headed somewhere!Either way, I agree with steveintoronto in that it would be a pretty cool ride to take.
http://canadian-passenger-rail.yahoogroups.narkive.com/GnJGfUUu/go-canpa-detoursGO Canpa Detours
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bn2189
7 years ago
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This morning (11-Sep-2009), as a result of a fire at the Canada Iron and Metal scrap yard near Jane and Dundas, the Canadian Pacific Galt Subdivision was shut down near mile 6 around 08:00. As a result, the Milton Line GO trains had to detour over the CP Canpa Subdivision to reach the CN Oakville Subdivision and continue their journeys to Union Station. I believe trains #150 and #152 made it through the area before the fire, and #154 may have, but the remainder of the fleet detoured. For a time, #160 and #162 were to be combined after the Kipling station stop, which would have created a 24-car train for the reverse move over the Canpa, but this plan was scrapped and the trains went separately. The fire was put out and the Galt Subdivision re-opened sometime after 10:00, so the afternoon c
ommute should be normal.
Lance Gleich, Toronto, ON
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Christian Base
7 years ago
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Around previous blockages of the CN Oakville sub between Union and Canpa,
discussions here have deemed it impossible to detour GO and VIA trains over
CP due to engineer qualifications. However, here we have a case of crews
operating over the Oakville Sub. Aren't these still CP crews operating on
the Milton line, or are they now Bombardier crews who would presumably be
qualified on all lines? Perhaps the CP crews are qualified on the Oakville
between Canpa & Union for the purposes of bringing trains to/from
Willowbrook?
Thanks,
Christian.
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Christian Base
There is going to be some serious work on the eastern-most section of the Oakville Sub coming up in the next couple of years - serious enough to require a number of weekend closures. It looks like they will be detouring Lakeshore West trains via the Galt and Canpa Subs, and apparently will be also including a stop at Kipling Station, which is tentatively scheduled to get a new platform on the south side of the corridor.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
The plot thickens!
I was studying the track layout last night on Google satellite view, what you state historically is still clearly visible for remaining ballast and trackbed. If it is to be used for passenger movement, then in for a penny, in for a pound, albeit it would be interesting to know what's in the terms of the tender. Even for empty movements, they might have to 'light' the line with signalling and remote switching to bring it up to full passenger usage without a warrant, even with speed restrictions (many level crossings) might make sense for future use when and if the Crosstown Line becomes reality.It will be interesting to see how far GO goes in upgrading it.
I can't believe I missed this question earlier, but does anyone have a rail switch diagram for Aldershot thru West Harbour/Hunter? And the changes the bridge would bring? It would go a long wayntpwards answering this question.
A Hamilton announcement is very imminent (Bet the bank: Steven Del Duca visits between now and Spring 2017)
Detouring on weekends, or a several months-long detour? If it's the latter, it will be interesting to see how they serve Mimico and Exhibition stations. Mimico is pretty low ridership, but there may be the need to run a separate Exhibition-Union shuttle during weekend events.
Either way, I agree with steveintoronto in that it would be a pretty cool ride to take.
I'm assuming this is for RER prep work? From Willowbrook to Union was in the initial operating segment/test segment, wasn't it? Either way, hopefully during the shutdown they upgrade Mimico so that it's accessible when the line re-opens. Much easier to do that work if the station is shut down completely.
I have seen it. The two tracks from CP appear to connect to the new main track at Hamilton Jct. The new main track ends at Bayview where it joins the existing main track just west of the junction. There will be a new crossover from that track to Track 3. That lets Hamilton Go trains to/from both depots use Track 3 from Aldershot to Bayview without encroaching on the two main tracks that go up the hill to Dundas.
- Paul
There is going to be some serious work on the eastern-most section of the Oakville Sub coming up in the next couple of years - serious enough to require a number of weekend closures. It looks like they will be detouring Lakeshore West trains via the Galt and Canpa Subs, and apparently will be also including a stop at Kipling Station, which is tentatively scheduled to get a new platform on the south side of the corridor.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
it will be interesting to see how they serve Mimico and Exhibition stations. Mimico is pretty low ridership, but there may be the need to run a separate Exhibition-Union shuttle during weekend events.
I'm lost. Is this the corridor that could be used as a crosstown RER from Malvern to Lakeshore via Summerhill?