gristle
Senior Member
What specific rights are you worried about?
The way this thread reads, it's like one massive gol-dern conspiracy out there.
The way this thread reads, it's like one massive gol-dern conspiracy out there.
As long as they have probable cause, they can detain, search, and seize. If there was a crime they were investigating, looking for suspect or evidence fleeing a scene there is even more latitude. Police aren't allowed to go on fishing expeditions, which is why police don't require every car passing through a ride check to do a breathilizer, they have to smell alcohol on youur breath, or have cause from your actions to compell a sample. When they know through good old fashioned police work young people, mostly white, Quebecois are coming to stir things up, it isn't racial profiling in the negative sense to give extra attention to people fitting the discription.Rights like if I ever went outside and was loitering (waiting for someone) but didn't bring any ID, I wouldn't get taken away by the police. If I happened to be walking outside and somehow got mixed in with protesters (or I felt strongly about an issue I had to protest about) I wouldn't be rounded up and detained like those were and get stripped and given racist and sexist remarks. Or if I went out, I get pushed against the wall and searched without reason.
Awhile back, my aunt went to buy take out dinner. The police chased her and told her to get out of the car. They asked what was in her car and pushed her against the car roughly and searched her. Apparently they did it to a few others too. Makes me wonder if they are allowed to randomly search people. And I kind of wonder if it's racial profiling too.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
10. Everyone has the right on arrest or detention
(a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
(b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
(c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.
I am absolutely certain that if the cops had arrested this guy for torching a police cruiser they would have announced his arrest with great fanfare and they would have released his picture to the public "in case he is involved in other crimes".
That "wanted guy" looks like an old co-worker of mine. He was into anti-capitalist protests, always was ranting about "pigs" etc, but since I can't be 100% certain, I'm not gonna turn him in. Also, just another cop car--the cops are happy, they get another new Ford Taurus-based cop car replacement!
Riot gear? I'd be surprised; I saw her at King and Church in Toronto yesterday (you know, near where we had riots recently), and the cops weren't in riot gear. Now those riding motorcycles who lead the convoy were wearing motorcycle helmets ... is this what she saw?She says there were snipers on the roof, cops in riot gear everywhere.
Going downtown on the Sunday was akin to walking through Pamplona during the running of the bulls. Sure, you have a right to be downtown, maybe it was your job to be downtown, whatever, but if you get run over by a bull, you can't really complain. There was a riot going on downtown the night before, and you still chose to go downtown the next day for whatever reason.It wasn't just Journalists and TTC employees. There were many other innocent people who were captured. Problem with Toronto is the idea "If I wasn't involved in it or it didn't happen to me. Then it's not a big issue. Who cares." They don't seem to realize, it could be them that was captured and treated that way. People wouldn't put themselves in other people's shoes to see how it feels like.
Going downtown on the Sunday was akin to walking through Pamplona during the running of the bulls. Sure, you have a right to be downtown, maybe it was your job to be downtown, whatever, but if you get run over by a bull, you can't really complain.
Going downtown on the Sunday was akin to walking through Pamplona during the running of the bulls. Sure, you have a right to be downtown, maybe it was your job to be downtown, whatever, but if you get run over by a bull, you can't really complain. There was a riot going on downtown the night before, and you still chose to go downtown the next day for whatever reason.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/830832 "73 per cent of Torontonians and two-thirds of Canadians believe police treatment of protesters was justified during the G20 summit." That's good enough for me.
Going downtown on the Sunday was akin to walking through Pamplona during the running of the bulls. Sure, you have a right to be downtown, maybe it was your job to be downtown, whatever, but if you get run over by a bull, you can't really complain. There was a riot going on downtown the night before, and you still chose to go downtown the next day for whatever reason.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/830832 "73 per cent of Torontonians and two-thirds of Canadians believe police treatment of protesters was justified during the G20 summit." That's good enough for me.
Let's suppose your little theory is correct and this particular troublemaker is a cop, sent in to give the riot squad an excuse to bust heads (boy, they sure failed to bust much in the way of heads though).
For this to be true, the following would have to had happen:
The police would have been stupid enough to send this guy in without a mask or disguise of any kind, to stand out from the crowd taking pictures and video and deliberately cause damage.
His image has now been plastered all over the internet. Yet not a single one of the couple hundred of this guy's fellow police officers who would have worked with him at some point professionally have leaked to the media that this guy was a police plant.