Towered
Senior Member
Indeed, Biden's narrowest lead in any of the "contested" states is 12 thousand in Arizona.
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Indeed, Biden's narrowest lead in any of the "contested" states is 12 thousand in Arizona.
kEiThZ
Superstar
I think only one of the cases reached SCOTUS and that wasn't even heard by the full bench. Despite the best hopes of Trumpers, the courts see through all this and are dismissing cases fairly quickly after they are filed. I saw one case (I think it was Michigan) dismissed in 90 mins. LOL.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Have you read some of the poll watcher affidavits? The amount of ludicrousness just invites slapdowns. This is stalling for time - to delay certification before the EC.
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afransen
Senior Member
One analysis I heard is that the vote fraud is a distraction/smokescreen for the real aim: have large swaths of ballots thrown out that could give Trump a technical victory (such as where poll observers were kept too far away from vote counting). If not this, to tie up states in litigation so that they do not certify results in time and republican state legislators send Trump electors, and finally, tie up enough states so that neither candidate receives 270 EC votes and causing a contingent election, where Republican advantage in small states would allow them to elect Trump.
I find all these scenarios to be quite unlikely, but if they were successful, it would indeed be the darkest timeline. You'd have two presidents who claim legitimacy, and recognized by a mix of foreign leaders. There would be blood in the streets. The fact that so many Republicans are playing along with this is pretty disturbing.
I find all these scenarios to be quite unlikely, but if they were successful, it would indeed be the darkest timeline. You'd have two presidents who claim legitimacy, and recognized by a mix of foreign leaders. There would be blood in the streets. The fact that so many Republicans are playing along with this is pretty disturbing.
The explanation one commentator gave as to why so many are playing along is because they don't want to burn bridges should Trump wish to run again in 2024.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Yes, I have heard that strategy as well - the only problem with it is that it will basically blow up the entire electoral system on the basis of unproved claims of fraud when you have a result that isn't even close. It would be a true death knell. I don't see the stomach for that route though considering 8 in 10 Americans already consider Biden to be the winner:
Poll: Nearly 8 in 10 Americans say Biden won, despite Trump refusing to concede
The overwhelming majority of Americans say President-elect Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election amid unsubstantiated cries of fraud from President Trump, according to a Reuers/Ipsos po…
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Even taking into account possibility of polling errors and whatnot, that's still a definitive majority of Americans.
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old boy
Senior Member
What a sad explanation. It might be part of the reason for playing along, but they're damaged goods it's plain to see - craven souls.
Johnny Au
Senior Member
Given the poll results, there is no doubt OANN, Newsmax, Sky News Australia, New Tang Dynasty Television, and Gnews (far-right Chinese American news channel) viewers are tinfoil hat-wearing quacks who believe in QAnon. Calling them quacks is an insult to ducks.Yes, I have heard that strategy as well - the only problem with it is that it will basically blow up the entire electoral system on the basis of unproved claims of fraud when you have a result that isn't even close. It would be a true death knell. I don't see the stomach for that route though considering 8 in 10 Americans already consider Biden to be the winner:
Poll: Nearly 8 in 10 Americans say Biden won, despite Trump refusing to concede
The overwhelming majority of Americans say President-elect Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election amid unsubstantiated cries of fraud from President Trump, according to a Reuers/Ipsos po…
Even taking into account possibility of polling errors and whatnot, that's still a definitive majority of Americans.
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Johnny Au
Senior Member
Here are great subreddits for those dealing with loved ones who succumbed to far-right quack conspiracy theories (QAnonCasualties and FoxBrain):
reddit.com
reddit.com
r/QAnonCasualties
r/QAnonCasualties: Have a friend or loved one taken in by QAnon? Look here for support, resources and a place to vent. Peruse old posts, settle in …
reddit.com
r/FoxBrain
r/FoxBrain: FoxBrain is a support group for people who struggle with family and friends who have succumbed to the paranoia, xenophobia, and hatred …
reddit.com
adma
Superstar
Here are great subreddits for those dealing with loved ones who succumbed to far-right quack conspiracy theories (QAnonCasualties and FoxBrain):
r/QAnonCasualties
r/QAnonCasualties: Have a friend or loved one taken in by QAnon? Look here for support, resources and a place to vent. Peruse old posts, settle in …r/FoxBrain
r/FoxBrain: FoxBrain is a support group for people who struggle with family and friends who have succumbed to the paranoia, xenophobia, and hatred …
Interesting. From some of the evidence there (including Alex Jones egging them on), it sounds like my longstanding postulation of potential QAnon mass suicide remains a looming, potential thing...
lenaitch
Senior Member
Each Justice is designated as a 'circuit justice' for each 'circuit' (area/region) of the US and has first jurisdiction for certain matters. I recall the news item but don't remember which Justice or where the matter - I think it was an application for injunction - was heard.
I find it interesting that the Democrats would apparently go to all the trouble of manipulating the election in favour of their Presidential candidate but apparently blow it for their House and Senate candidates. All part of the grand conspiracy I guess.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
That would likely be the end of the electoral college system.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Election Security Rumor vs. Reality | CISA
www.cisa.gov
DeSantis is a Trump wannabe. He doesn't care about the rules. He just want things his way.
afransen
Senior Member
Republicans don't seem to care about norms or buttressing institutions.