Finch West Line 6 LRT

[JSF-1]

If they are still intent on using the original yard location than I don't see the point in ending the line just at UTSC when the trackage north to Sheppard would already be built; so why not just terminate the line at Morningside-Sheppard like the original Scarborough-Malvern LRT? If they aren't going to do that then the city has a good amount of land on the south side of the 401 they can use to build a storage facility for the Crosstown without having to cross the 401. It doesn't have the be a maintenance facility like Mount Dennis, just a storage yard for LRV's.

Something like this yard in Calgary. Nothing more than some storage tracks and a shed. It's relatively inexpensive when compared to a major facility like Mount Dennis, but still serves as a way to get trains at each end of the line quickly. Major maintenance work would obviously still take place at Mount Dennis.

 

[Neutrino]

The biggest question is why would one think there's enough like-minded minds in Ontario to elect him.

Good to see you've evolved past the "bigot" epithet. Many in the US were blindsided when Trump won. I think it's very likely the same will occur with Ontario, even though Ford is nowhere near as bombastic as Trump.

 

[smallspy]

Wasn't the purpose of ATC installation to increase train headways in the system, thereby increasing the capacity of the subway by 20%? The TTC says that headways of 1 minute, 55 seconds can be achieved with with ATC.

If this is the case, doesn't the TTC need more trains than the 11 you are suggesting to run at these frequencies?

So do the math.

11 trains over 6.9km at 2:21. That's a train almost every 600m.

If you bring the headway down to 1:55, you need to have a train less than every 500m (~488m). Multiply by the length of the extension, means that you need 14 trains to service it (since you can't have a partial train).

(Yes, this is a bit of a simplistic look at how they calculate it, but it's also going to get you a pretty good ballpark figure.)

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[11th]

The biggest question is why would one think there's enough like-minded minds in Ontario to elect him. The high PC poll numbers reflect Patrick Brown and the belief that Christine Elliott (or perhaps everyone figures there candidate) would win. Once the polls stabilize to reflect Drug Ford's leadership, there's no chance in hell he'll be Premier.

The die-hard fans of either the Liberal or PC party will vote for him, but for very different reasons. The only way to bring fresh blood to the Liberal party is if majority of the incumbents lose their seats. It's too bad the choice to make for that to happen in this election is a very bitter pill.

 

[Streety McCarface]

So do the math.

11 trains over 6.9km at 2:21. That's a train almost every 600m.

If you bring the headway down to 1:55, you need to have a train less than every 500m (~488m). Multiply by the length of the extension, means that you need 14 trains to service it (since you can't have a partial train).

(Yes, this is a bit of a simplistic look at how they calculate it, but it's also going to get you a pretty good ballpark figure.)

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Exactly, and that doesn't particularly help the rest of the Yonge line, meaning that extending it north serves no purpose as yard relief (which was the original argument in question).

 

[smallspy]

Exactly, and that doesn't particularly help the rest of the Yonge line, meaning that extending it north serves no purpose as yard relief (which was the original argument in question).

So you would rather that they run those 14 trains up from Wilson then?

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[torontocolin]

You might need 14 trains to service the extension, but that's north and southbound. When you're launching service in the morning, you're only sending trains southbound, so 14 trains will help you get service going south of Finch too.

 

[Streety McCarface]

You might need 14 trains to service the extension, but that's north and southbound. When you're launching service in the morning, you're only sending trains southbound, so 14 trains will help you get service going south of Finch too.

That makes a lot more sense, thank you.

 

[Leo_Chan]

If they are still intent on using the original yard location than I don't see the point in ending the line just at UTSC when the trackage north to Sheppard would already be built; so why not just terminate the line at Morningside-Sheppard like the original Scarborough-Malvern LRT? If they aren't going to do that then the city has a good amount of land on the south side of the 401 they can use to build a storage facility for the Crosstown without having to cross the 401. It doesn't have the be a maintenance facility like Mount Dennis, just a storage yard for LRV's.

Something like this yard in Calgary. Nothing more than some storage tracks and a shed. It's relatively inexpensive when compared to a major facility like Mount Dennis, but still serves as a way to get trains at each end of the line quickly. Major maintenance work would obviously still take place at Mount Dennis.

The original EA for the Scarborough-Malvern LRT had storage tracks on Military Trail. Though, I don’t think UTSC would want their main campus through-road to become a wall of LRT vehicles at night or midday.

 

[raptor]

There it is...

Preferred Proponent Selected for Finch West Light Rail Transit Project

TORONTO - Infrastructure Ontario and Metrolinx have selected Mosaic Transit Group as the preferred proponent to design, build, finance and maintain the Finch West Light Rail Transit (FWLRT) project.

The selection of Mosaic Transit Group is the result of an open, fair and competitive procurement process overseen by a third party fairness advisor.

Members of the preferred proponent team include:

• Applicant Lead: ACS Infrastructure Canada Inc., Aecon Concessions - a division of Aecon Construction Group Inc., CRH Canada Group Inc.
• Construction: Aecon Infrastructure and Management Inc., Dragados Canada Inc., Dufferin Construction Company - a division of CRH Canada Group Inc.
• Design: Arup Canada Inc., Dillon Consulting Limited, DPM Energy Inc., DTAH, Perkins + Will Canada Inc., Sener SES Canada Inc.
• Maintenance: ACS Infrastructure Canada Inc., Aecon O&M - a division of Aecon Construction Group Inc.
• Financial Advisor: RBC Dominion Securities Inc.

IO and Metrolinx expect to reach financial close and award the contract in spring 2018, with design and construction to begin shortly thereafter.

The scope of work for the FWLRT project includes:

• 11 kilometres of new, semi-exclusive light rail transit between Humber College and the new Finch West Subway Station on the Toronto-York Spadina Subway Extension
• 16 surface stops, a below-grade terminal stop at Humber College, and an underground interchange station at (Keele Street and Finch Avenue West) TTC's Finch West Subway Station
• A maintenance and storage facility for the light rail vehicles
• Other required components, such as trackworks, signaling, communications, and public realm infrastructure

 

[Edllguy]

^^^Great news. However, can someone please explain this quote that is part of the announcement?

"IO and Metrolinx expect to reach financial close and award the contract in spring 2018, with design and construction to begin shortly thereafter."

Why not have this announced at the same time as today's news release?

Kindly educate me please!

Thanks

 

[alexb]

^^^Great news. However, can someone please explain this quote that is part of the announcement?

"IO and Metrolinx expect to reach financial close and award the contract in spring 2018, with design and construction to begin shortly thereafter."

Why not have this announced at the same time as today's news release?

Kindly educate me please!

Thanks

Simply put, the more announcements the better. Especially now that its election season. Financial close may not be reached prior to the election.

 

[gweed123]

^^^Great news. However, can someone please explain this quote that is part of the announcement?

"IO and Metrolinx expect to reach financial close and award the contract in spring 2018, with design and construction to begin shortly thereafter."

Why not have this announced at the same time as today's news release?

Kindly educate me please!

Thanks

There may still be some contract details that need to be worked out before it can be formally signed. This is basically the equivalent of an agreement-in-principle.

Either way, I just hope there's a signature on the dotted line before June.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Simply put, the more announcements the better. Especially now that its election season. Financial close may not be reached prior to the election.

It should be reached prior to the election.

This is what always happens when they make these announcements, financial close happens a month or two later, and construction begins essentially immediately. once they have announced the winning proponent (today), they finalize construction schedules and financial terms while the proponent prepares to mobilize it's crews.

 

[Edllguy]

Is this the answer to my question? Taken from Aecon's website

Statement on Forward-Looking Information

The information in this press release includes certain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are based on currently available competitive, financial and economic data and operating plans but are subject to risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements may include, without limitation, statements regarding the operations, business, financial condition, expected financial results, performance, prospects, ongoing objectives, strategies and outlook for Aecon. Forward-looking statements, may in some cases be identified by words such as "will," "plans," "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "estimates," "projects," "intends," "should" or the negative of these terms, or similar expressions. In addition to events beyond Aecon's control, there are factors which could cause actual or future results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed or inferred herein including, but not limited to: the timing of projects, unanticipated costs and expenses, general market and industry conditions and operational and reputational risks, including Large Project Risk and Contractual Factors. Readers are referred to the specific risk factors relating to and affecting Aecon's business and operations as filed by Aecon pursuant to applicable securities laws. Except as required by applicable securities laws, forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made and Aecon undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

SOURCE Aecon Group Inc.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releas...ail-transit-project-in-toronto-679441943.html