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Eglinton East LRT | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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sixrings
Senior Member
clearly this is either the left trying to trick you into thinking these things will be built or the left are paying unions to build these buildings. You probably are a Toronto Star reader and a CBC advocate while biking with your Starbucks. Save our streets from Street cars. Anyone been to that disaster of St Clair lately? Also did you notice that most of that new St Clair development is right beside the subway station. People love Subways. Subways, subways, subways.Edit: Turns out I can't tell sarcasm if it hit me in the face!
I'm sorry, but this comment is so far from the truth. Eglinton East of Don Mills has seen a massive increase in number of development applications. Here is UrbanToronto's own map with all the black pins being new applications for development.
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@FutureModelTO also released a picture of the developments currently submitted for the Golden Mile:
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LRTs do indeed spur development. Arguably to the same level as a subway would.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
Perhaps Line 7 could annex the Line 5 segment up to the Science Centre.
nfitz
Superstar
Wow. Mind boggling ...
Let's hope it wasn't the same engineers who botched this, who designed the rest of the line. They have gone so bizarrely deep at Lawrence, that there's some challenging geology, that could be challenging.
smallspy
Senior Member
You can prefer it all you want. It doesn't mean that it makes sense to do so.
Transfers are generally an inconvenience, but they are also a necessary evil. It's not possible to build a subway from every single rider's origin to their destination - thus at some point riders will need to to transfer (and some twice or more).
Years ago, the TTC's own metrics regarded each transfer as an equivalent to taking another 10 minutes of travel time - meaning that the average rider would take a trip 10 minutes longer to avoid a transfer. But more recently, the TTC has realized that most riders don't view transfers nearly as extremely, and in fact different transfers get weighted different depending on the mode (say, subway-to-subway transfer is viewed far less negatively than a bus-to-bus transfer).
As for reliability, any non-separated transit lane is subject to delays that a lane with some physical separation lane would not be. I don't know how often you've been out there - admittedly I'm not out there that often - but I still see buses getting caught behind cars turning right or even pulling back out into traffic with the RapidTO lanes. That wouldn't happen if the lanes had been separated, and it won't happen with an LRT.
To be fair, these ideas may be in play. I don't think that they've gotten to the point of having a plan ready to present to the public.
You may be asking for a practical or pragmatic answer when one isn't likely to be forthcoming.
Dan
ARG1
Senior Member
How do you expect people to respond to you seriously when you make these strawmen about what other people argue?
TRONto
Active Member
There is a ton of new development along St Clair since the ROW was put in.
H4F33Z
Active Member
How do y'all feel about this project being spearheaded by the city rather than Metrolinx?
ARG1
Senior Member
I'm not arguing that point, I absolutely agree the LRT spurs development, I'm just saying can we not have have these "the left trying to trick you into thinking these things will be built or the left are paying unions to build these buildings" hotshots? Its not helpful or in any way productive to the discussion.
sixrings
Senior Member
You've progressively gotten more refined and relaxed since getting your subways subways subways..... I miss the old hot and bothered Coffey1 and then OneCity... maybe the two -three years between accounts you've just been calmer or you've simply gotten your way... I don't care either way anymore... was just having fun. Congrats on the ford win.
Voltz
Senior Member
Much preferred.
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Then we complain about the outer 416 complaining, not realizing this is why Ford is in office. The same thing happened in the west end and now we're paying for a 5 billion dollar tunnel in an area with mansions.
Amare
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The city will water it down as much as possible (as evidenced by what they were doing with Eglinton West), and it will be built ions into the future.
TRONto
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Eglinton East LRT Update, June 2022 (Revised)
Revised June 9, 2022: A section has been added at the end of the article based on the discussion at the Executive Committee meeting. Two reports are on Toronto’s Executive Committee Agenda fo…
stevemunro.ca
After reading the summary, the changes seem reasonable. If the route to Sheppard /McCowan is built as proposed, all the better.
Rainforest
Senior Member
Technically, the same transformative effect can be achieved without any new transit line at all, or with a BRT line. Just rebuild the street and repurpose the lanes
Not sure it can be seen as a benefit of LRT specifically.Of course, if LRT is needed anyway (the forecast demand exceeds the bus route capacity), then it makes sense to do all at once, LRT plus streetscaping. Rather than disrupt the street two times, first for the streetscaping and then again for the LRT construction.
Speaking of the sample LRT projects, we should have a small variety in operation come 2023, or 2024 at the latest:
- Regular street-median LRT: all of Finch West, and the eastern segment of Eglinton
- Tunneled LRT plus a narrow street with wider public space: Eglinton Connect, Avenue Rd to Mt Pleasant Rd (?)
- Tunneled / elevated LRT without much other changes to the streetscape: Eglinton in Etobicoke
EE LRT is a long shot. We will have the stats on the changing boarding counts and ridership counts for the first few years of FW LRT and EC LRT, before Eglinton East gets funded and any contracts get signed.