innsertnamehere
Superstar
It was pretty clear that the expected off peak service was going to be 15 minutes, much like the lakeshore lines today that run with 30 minute services.
Get real. A line that's anywhere from 25+ years away to never will have no influence on anything.Add in a crosstown GO line from Malvern to Mississauga in the long term, and whatever weak justification there once was for this subway will be thoroughly demolished.
I'm normally faster than average, unless my baby is strapped to me. Not sure what age has to do with anything. The slow ones often seem to the children in their late teens and early twenties adsorbed by the electronic devices.Niftz is also a old man, so it would take longer
I'm normally faster than average, unless my baby is strapped to me. Not sure what age has to do with anything. The slow ones often seem to those in their late teens and early twenties adsorbed by the electronic devices. Though I'm sure most people aren't faster than average!Niftz is also a old man, so it would take longer
It's a no-brainer. I can't imagine any professional would disagree with this, and I can't imagine the EA wouldn't recommend it. And didn't I already say this earlier in the thread back in 2013 when council first approved the subway extension?But if the subway is getting built, it makes a lot of sense to add a station in the Eglinton & Danforth area.
It seems like a ridiculous way to run a transit system. "We will piss off 67% of our riders because that is the only way the plan will work."
I would say choose a different plan.
If 67% of the riders from the SRT were headed along Eglinton, than I would agree with you.
But they aren't. Most of them are headed to destinations that are on the B-D, some south on the 113 and 20, some headed east on Eglinton, and some west along Eglinton.
Why do you think that the TTC has always said that surface LRT will be more than adequate from Don Mills to Kennedy Station? I've got bad news for you, they don't just pull those numbers out of their collective asses.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
The only way the chosen solution works is if the majority of riders are inconvenienced. Why else would the projections show about 8,000 passengers continuing along Eglinton if connected, and only a few thousand make the transfer to Eglinton if a transfer is required.
Well, the TTC never said that.
They said the ONLY way that surface LRT is adequate from Don Mills (actually Brentcliffe) to Kennedy Station is if all (or at least most) riders are forced off the SRT/LRT and onto the B-D subway.
That's not what was said at the EA meetings for the Crosstown.
The assumption that you - and a lot of other people - make is that the near-entirety of people transferring from the SRT to the B-D are heading downtown. That is simply not true. If it was, than the 12,000 or so people who make that connection in the morning rush hour would be filling up the westbound B-D trains from Kennedy to the point where additional people couldn't get on at Woodbine or Main St. And while the trains are full in the morning heading westbound, to say that there is no more space on the train that far out from Yonge would be false.
Ergo, a lot of people are getting off before Yonge. In fact, considering the size crowds that get out from every single westbound train at Warden - and Victoria Park, and the rest of the stations to the west - I would bet that the percentage may be as high as a third of the people who get on at Kennedy get off of the train by Main St.
So therefore, if that many people are taking the B-D line either directly to their destinations to transferring to a bus via the B-D, how many of them would benefit by taking the Eglinton-Crosstown? While there are some, most will continue to take the B-D even after the opening of the Crosstown, because it is the most convenient route to their destination.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
The Tory Smarttrack proposal is an attempt to avoid the enormous cost of a DRL.
As for Scarborough, make the STC area more of a jobs zone, link it with downtown by some level of frequent RER that isn't built to a rush hour load capacity, and use the money you save to build transit and quality of life in Scarborough that don't add to downtown trips at all. That's cheaper all round.
Sorry, but the reckless planning of SmartTrack indicates otherwise. Remember that this plan calls for a subway to be built under Eglinton West. That's a line that may very well have less usage than the Sheppard Subway. If Tory was trying to save money by not building the Relief Line, he must want to squander it by building an Eglinton West subway.