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Danforth Line 2 Scarborough Subway Extension

Amare said:
It's not, stop spreading misinformation.
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It's contingent upon Doug actually winning the election, of course. But it's closer to coming to fruition than it has ever been probably since the initial phase of the Sheppard Subway opened way back in 2002. Even when Patrick Brown was around my hopes weren't so high on Sheppard taking priority, but this is an issue the Fords have championed for close to a decade now.
 
Hopkins123 said:
Nope. Considering the combined ridership of 86/116/198 along Eglinton and Kingston, each stop en route methinks would be highly trafficked.
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But that still means a transfer at Kennedy, just for the east instead of the north. Someone is going to have to transfer at Kennedy. Will it be subway or LRT users?
ShonTron said:
Strong consensus? Cite your sources.
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OneCity said:
How do you find this worth questioning this at this stage? We have a Premier candidate currently running around yelling it at the front of his platform for Scarborough & seriously killing it here (again). All the Conservative & Liberal candidates are currently running on the Sheppard subway locally. Its really to the point our politicians have subways on their lawn signs in the Sheppard ridings. Torys and Fords previous pollster Kouvalis has his polls showing a 10% favorable for even the unfortunate one stop subway over LRT. Which obviously contradicts the Stars poll. But who would you believe? I think the polls telling all the winners of these elections and bi-elections telling them what to run on as the main campaign item might hold far more weight. The reality couldn't be more clear when we have an NDP councillor in Malvern East who is pro SSE. 99% of Scarborough elected politicians are pro subway and have their own internal polling...

The Sheppard and SCC subway was all ive ever heard from neighbours regarding transit since I moved here and Ive live in a couple different areas, most seem pissed that they haven't extended the loop and were seeing the clear politics to match. Those still talking transfer plans over the last 7 years always baffled me as there was zero chance once it was called out. Anyway the point was in the previous post is that ive really never heard anyone mention a subway extension to Eglinton/Kingston and not about this blatantly obvious support.
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ShonTron, the Scarborough Liberal Caucus lead by Duguid and Berardinetti have supported the completion of the sheppard gap in north york and the rest of the subway since Rob got in. The section of the OLP has been less then honest with their intentions when it comes to Toronto transit and have been a clear part of the slow down in terms of getting anything done. They had influence in the premiers office, which is why the SELRT is all but dead as well. Also, note the SCC is no longer going to sheppard and that de baremaker, karyigiannis and others tried force the SCC to end on a loop at Progres. This is all clearly intended to build sheppard in the near future.
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
But that still means a transfer at Kennedy, just for the east instead of the north. Someone is going to have to transfer at Kennedy. Will it be subway or LRT users?


ShonTron, the Scarborough Liberal Caucus lead by Duguid and Berardinetti have supported the completion of the sheppard gap in north york and the rest of the subway since Rob got in. The section of the OLP has been less then honest with their intentions when it comes to Toronto transit and have been a clear part of the slow down in terms of getting anything done. They had influence in the premiers office, which is why the SELRT is all but dead as well. Also, note the SCC is no longer going to sheppard and that de baremaker, karyigiannis and others tried force the SCC to end on a loop at Progres. This is all clearly intended to build sheppard in the near future.
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Just because politicians are pandering for votes with subway slogans is meaningless,
 
Voltz said:
Just because politicians are pandering for votes with subway slogans is meaningless,
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You see it that way but the people have here have been about this for decades. Mainly because:

1. RT debacle
2. The Sheppard stubway staring at residents against the doorstep with steady high quality density surrounding the stops year after year and it was built on the plan to connect to SCC in the future.
3.The transfers, especially the proposed new one introduced on Sheppard
4. Residents paid taxes into the TTC and City since amalgamation so a connected Centre into the City make sense to most to have most optimal future
5.North York and now Vaughan Centre :confused: both connected
6. Last but not least because were dubbed "Scarberia" and this subway is undoubtedly also a
nice subtle middle finger for the unfair image/sterotypes, being told whats best for us and the overall lack of attention this massive area has received since amalgamation.

The transfer LRT plan was lucky to make it as long as it did, and was only due to apathy from local politicians who threw in the towel so to speak to just get something built here and fight for other issue in the Miller years once he rejected their request to extend the BDL. As soon as the people were given their own political voice back on transit under Ford it was over and very clear. And not even over by a little, Politicians from every stripe at every level who had a stake in Scarborough knew exactly what was happening and were on it. Ford and Glen Murray offered likely the last economical solution to the Centre before outsiders shut them down once again. This line now is what it is, and Ford 2.0 will dominate here once again here for all the reasons above and the monkey business that has gone on under Torys admin with this line. See what happens next month...
 
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https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2018/07/06/design-changes-to-scarborough-subway-come-with-unknown-costs.html said:
It’s unclear why the TTC still has an open contract for the Sheppard East station when it hasn’t been part of the plan since the beginning of 2016. Green said no work is underway on that contract.
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It's interesting that this was part of the report and wasn't changed long earlier.
 
syn said:
Surprise surprise...

Design changes to Scarborough subway come with unknown costs
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Leo_Chan said:
It's interesting that this was part of the report and wasn't changed long earlier.
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And then we have the Doug Ford administration to further complicate things.

Sweeping to power earlier this month with a new provincial PC government, Premier Doug Ford has vowed to return to the three-stop subway plan, though he provided no details of how he would pay for it.

The three-stop plan was last estimated at $4.6 billion, leaving the current budget more than $1 billion short.

“If direction comes to change to a three-stop subway we will need to review the design, cost and schedule impacts,” Green said.​
 
salsa said:
And then we have the Doug Ford administration to further complicate things.
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Indeed. I'm not sure he has the stomach to actually fund his plan.

3 stop SSE + Line 2 prerequisites is a $8B plan; with about $6B of that coming from the province and around $5B requires new money (his entire 10 year subway budget) with very little to show for it.

Of course, a bit of EA work + deferring is almost free.
 
innsertnamehere said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the Scarborough Subway becomes a 2 stop subway, with Lawrence added, then the extension to Sheppard being slapped in with the Sheppard Subway project.
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Or, he might add one more stop at Eglinton&Brimley. He said 3-stop, but didn't say at what locations. Could be Brimley - Lawrence East - STC.

Not that it's the best plan; going to Sheppard would have many connectivity benefits. But, certainly more affordable. Adding an inline station at Brimley shouldn't cost more than $150M, versus 1.7 km of extra tunnel to Sheppard and an additional bus terminal there, that together could cost $1B or more.
 
rbt said:
Indeed. I'm not sure he has the stomach to actually fund his plan.

3 stop SSE + Line 2 prerequisites is a $8B plan; with about $6B of that coming from the province and around $5B requires new money (his entire 10 year subway budget) with very little to show for it.

Of course, a bit of EA work + deferring is almost free.
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I'm sure he will - they'll just cancel something else.

Do the rest of us have the stomach to fund it? I think we know the answer to that question. ;)
 
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